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    DNA tests ‘prove’ that Jack the Ripper was a Polish immigrant named Aaron Kosminski

    Network Writers
    News Corp Australia
    September 07, 2014 10:32PM


    A suspicious character ... an etching of a ‘vigilance committee’ identifying possible suspects in London in 1888. Picture: The Illustrated London News

    THE search to uncover the identity of Jack the Ripper appears to be over.

    DNA on a shawl found near one of the victims, Catherine Eddowes, reportedly contains a match to both her and one of the chief suspects, Aaron Kosminsky.

    The Polish hairdresser, who moved to England with his family in 1881, was committed to a mental asylum at the peak of Ripper hysteria.

    The breakthrough came when Dr Jari Louhelainen, an expert in historic DNA, was commissioned to study a shawl found with Eddowes, the second-last “confirmed” victim of the Ripper more than 125 years ago.

    The shawl — which still retained historic stains — had been bought by a businessman at an auction in 2007.

    “It has taken a great deal of hard work, using cutting-edge scientific techniques which would not have been possible five years ago,” Dr Louhelainen told a British newspaper.

    “Once I had the profile, I could compare it to that of the female descendant of Kosminski’s sister, who had given us a sample of her DNA swabbed from inside her mouth.

    “The first strand of DNA showed a 99.2 per cent match, as the analysis instrument could not determine the sequence of the missing 0.8 per cent fragment of DNA. On testing the second strand, we achieved a perfect 100 per cent match.”


  • #2
    Oh great. So now the English can make even more movies and tv series about this.

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    • #3
      I preferred the mystery that surrounded the mystery.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Sean88gt View Post
        I preferred the mystery that surrounded the mystery.
        Yep, kind of sucks now.

        If you get away with it until you are deceased I guess you got away with it.

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        • #5
          The only thing that proves is that he had contact with that woman, not that he actually killed her. Considering the profession of most ripper victims, there could be lots of male DNA on them....

          I personally like the theory that H.H. Holmes is the Ripper.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by JC316 View Post
            The only thing that proves is that he had contact with that woman, not that he actually killed her. Considering the profession of most ripper victims, there could be lots of male DNA on them....

            I personally like the theory that H.H. Holmes is the Ripper.
            So DNA evidence linking a murder victim to a suspect isn't enough, but another person being a serial killer on an unrelated continent is enough for them to be a suspect? Sorry, dude. H. H. Holmes was in medical school in Michigan at the time.
            ZOMBIE REAGAN FOR PRESIDENT 2016!!! heh

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            • #7
              It was D.B. Cooper with the lead pipe in the Conservatory.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by YALE View Post
                So DNA evidence linking a murder victim to a suspect isn't enough, but another person being a serial killer on an unrelated continent is enough for them to be a suspect? Sorry, dude. H. H. Holmes was in medical school in Michigan at the time.
                He graduated in 1884, the ripper murders were in 1888 get your facts straight.

                Handwriting samples from both the ripper case and the holmes case indicate a 97.5% match. Sure the guy that brought this up was promoting a book at the time, and there was no proof that the ripper ever wrote the letters in the first place. Still, I would take the theory that a medically trained serial killer with the same M.O. took a boat to london, over a fucking polish hairdresser.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JC316 View Post
                  He graduated in 1884, the ripper murders were in 1888 get your facts straight.

                  Handwriting samples from both the ripper case and the holmes case indicate a 97.5% match. Sure the guy that brought this up was promoting a book at the time, and there was no proof that the ripper ever wrote the letters in the first place. Still, I would take the theory that a medically trained serial killer with the same M.O. took a boat to london, over a fucking polish hairdresser.

                  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2231896.html
                  Sorry dude. There's no evidence Holmes traveled to London. That part is speculation. Your article makes the claim that he did, by citing another article making the same claim. Neither presents evidence, apart from the handwriting sample.
                  ZOMBIE REAGAN FOR PRESIDENT 2016!!! heh

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by YALE View Post
                    Sorry dude. There's no evidence Holmes traveled to London. That part is speculation. Your article makes the claim that he did, by citing another article making the same claim. Neither presents evidence, apart from the handwriting sample.
                    And DNA on the shawl of a prostitute is conclusive evidence that this dude killed her? They had zero evidence on Kosminski to begin with and even the damned asylum described him as harmless. It may not be holmes, but that is the theory that I like and it has about as much evidence as kosminski.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JC316 View Post
                      And DNA on the shawl of a prostitute is conclusive evidence that this dude killed her? They had zero evidence on Kosminski to begin with and even the damned asylum described him as harmless. It may not be holmes, but that is the theory that I like and it has about as much evidence as kosminski.
                      Fair enough.
                      ZOMBIE REAGAN FOR PRESIDENT 2016!!! heh

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                      • #12
                        Oh shit now we can go Polska bashing in England!
                        First hand witness at the failure of public healthcare.

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                        • #13
                          [Halford]You're in for surprise
                          You're in for a shock
                          In London town streets
                          When there's darkness and fog
                          When you least expect me
                          And you turn your back
                          I'll attack

                          I smile when I'm sneaking
                          Through shadows by the wall
                          I laugh when I'm creeping
                          But you won't hear me at all

                          All hear my warning
                          Never turn your back
                          On the ripper

                          You'll soon shake with fear
                          Never knowing if I'm near
                          I'm sly and I'm shameless
                          Nocturnal and nameless
                          Except for "The Ripper"
                          Or if you like "Jack The Knife"

                          Any back alley street
                          Is where we'll probably meet
                          Underneath a gas lamp
                          Where the air's cold and damp
                          I'm a nasty surprise
                          I'm a devil in disguise
                          I'm a footstep at night
                          I'm a scream of the fright

                          All hear my warning
                          Never turn your back
                          On the ripper...the ripper....the ripper[\Halford]

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                          • #14
                            Why when I hear the name "Jack the Ripper" do I think of Last Action Hero?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by JC316 View Post
                              He graduated in 1884, the ripper murders were in 1888 get your facts straight.

                              Handwriting samples from both the ripper case and the holmes case indicate a 97.5% match. Sure the guy that brought this up was promoting a book at the time, and there was no proof that the ripper ever wrote the letters in the first place. Still, I would take the theory that a medically trained serial killer with the same M.O. took a boat to london, over a fucking polish hairdresser.

                              http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2231896.html
                              I would take anything Jeff Mudgett claims with a grain of salt. He also claims that he has communicated with the ghost of H.H. Holmes and he's trying to lure him into the dark side. I think Jeff Mudgett inherited his great-great-grandfather's penchant for fraud and exaggeration.

                              And you want to know why handwriting analysis is inherently flawed? Because it's subjective.

                              Also, bear in mind..Scotland Yard has said there were so many fake Ripper letters sent to them during that time period, that there is no known true handwriting sample. Nothing conclusive.

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