mobs in St louis

[Baron Von Crowder]

I don't think it is solely crooked cops that think it. I think an alarmingly high percentage of cops period think it, using "the greater good" logic to do things that any sane person would call outrageous. This whole situation is a perfect example. Law enforcement in this country is long past a point of needing to be completely rethought and reinvented. But of course, we allow them to lobby just like corporations so they never see a budget reduced, no matter how much they squander it, then supplement it with seizures from citizens. It's a perfect mouse trap of circular never ending bullshit that lines their pockets and encourages overzealous behavior.

Sometimes it feels like this world is spinning faster
Than it did in the old days
So naturally we have more natural disasters
From the strain of a fast pace

Sunday was the day of rest
Now its one more day for progress
And we can't slow down
Cause more is best
It's all an endless process

Well I miss Mayberry
Sitting on the porch drinking ice cold Cherry --- Coke
Where everything is black & white
Picking on a Six String
Where people pass by and you call them by their first name
Watching the clouds roll by
bye bye

Sometimes I can hear this old earth shouting
Through the trees as the wind blows
Thats when I climb up here on this mountain
To look through God's window

Now I can't fly
But I've got two feet
To get me high up here
Above the noise and city streets
My worries disappear

Well I miss Mayberry
Sitting on the porch drinking ice cold Cherry --- Coke
Where everything is black & white
Picking on a Six String
Where people pass by and you call them by their first name
Watching the clouds roll by
bye bye

Sometimes I dream I'm driving down an old dirt road
Not even listed on the map
I pass a dad and son carrying a fishing pole
But I always wake up everytime I try to turn back

Well I miss Mayberry
Sitting on the porch drinking ice cold Cherry Coke
Where everything is black & white
Picking on a Six String
Where people pass by and you call them by their first name
Watching the clouds roll by
bye bye

[CexMashean]

I'm referring to the "a lot of society's problems" portion of it, not just the cop portion.
Society's problems isn't cops. Society's problem is the "it's all about me/what can everyone do for me" mentality.
No one gives a shit about anyone else anymore. No one cares about shooting some kid, no one cares about rioting some store in their own community that has nothing to do with anything, no one cares about randomly shooting at random people.
When you're a target, and you're dealing with people of that mindset, how do you win?

[talisman]

I'm referring to the "a lot of society's problems" portion of it, not just the cop portion.
Society's problems isn't cops. Society's problem is the "it's all about me/what can everyone do for me" mentality.
No one gives a shit about anyone else anymore. No one cares about shooting some kid, no one cares about rioting some store in their own community that has nothing to do with anything, no one cares about randomly shooting at random people.
When you're a target, and you're dealing with people of that mindset, how do you win?

Not with tear gas, obviously.

[juiceweezl]

Im not extremely up to date on this whole mess, but the county police took over and let the city cops take their teargas and rubber bullets with them.

He was not in charge in the beginning and did not have the authority to order local Ferguson, MO officers to stand down and de-escalate.

The governor of Missouri ordered that Johnson take over the situation on Wednesday.

This is the contrast from Wednesday to Thursday.

First, the county police took over and now the highway patrol. Yes, the tactics have changed, but the mob lost its momentum too. Don't think that didn't factor into it.

Furthermore, I know that guy wasn't in charge, but if he knows the community, he could have rallied the community in the same fashion. Do you think MLK Jr. was ever 'in charge' officially of anything he organized and led? Timing is everything in this world, and if that guy had tried to make the group peaceful on Monday, he would have taken a beating.

[Baron Von Crowder]

First, the county police took over and now the highway patrol. Yes, the tactics have changed, but the mob lost its momentum too. Don't think that didn't factor into it.

Furthermore, I know that guy wasn't in charge, but if he knows the community, he could have rallied the community in the same fashion. Do you think MLK Jr. was ever 'in charge' officially of anything he organized and led? Timing is everything in this world, and if that guy had tried to make the group peaceful on Monday, he would have taken a beating.

How do you think this could have been handled quicker and more efficiently then Negrodamus?

[dee]

how do you think this could have been handled quicker and more efficiently then negroradamus?

lmao.

[03mustangdude]

So guy robbed a store and the black community is saying that its not him it could be any black person, they all look alike lol classic.

[David]

These fucktards will never be satisfied by anything. This one lady on CNN is just fucking pathetic.

[03mustangdude]

^^^that's what I was watching even though I don't agree with the police response you get these people are justifying the response

[Forever_frost]

I'm referring to the "a lot of society's problems" portion of it, not just the cop portion.
Society's problems isn't cops. Society's problem is the "it's all about me/what can everyone do for me" mentality.
No one gives a shit about anyone else anymore. No one cares about shooting some kid, no one cares about rioting some store in their own community that has nothing to do with anything, no one cares about randomly shooting at random people.
When you're a target, and you're dealing with people of that mindset, how do you win?

When you claim to protect and serve, you don't roll vehicles and gear we didn't use in combat, in the US

[CexMashean]

When you claim to protect and serve, you don't roll vehicles and gear we didn't use in combat, in the US

When you claim you want to fight for civil rights, you don't destroy property and mob/riot against your own community.

What gear/vehicles would you suggest people use when they are outnumbered 1v100?

[Forever_frost]

When you claim you want to fight for civil rights, you don't destroy property and mob/riot against your own community.

What gear/vehicles would you suggest people use when they are outnumbered 1v100?

When the cops are servants and cannot engage like a fighting force? Squad cars and vans. They are there to deescalate not to fight.

[mardyn]

it's simple... you act like a bunch of wild animals, you get treated as such...

Until "they" understand this fact of life, nothing will ever change.

mardyn

[03mustangdude]

So I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the black community only cares about making the robber an angel and the cop an executioner

[Forever_frost]

Notice the difference in attitude in the community when the military gear is put up and the officers are actually interacting with the community instead of wearing armor and carrying (in Obama's words) weapons of war?