Ebola on US shores

[black2002ls]

I call BS on that too. You ever seen what a nurse has to go through to become a RN. Believe me those people followed protocol! The Government is just saying they didnt to keep panic down. The two new patients are College educated people. They didnt get to where there at because they cant follow instructions

Have you met some of the people coming out of college! Unless the PPE that is/was being used is inadequate, I would still lean towards something happening during decontamination and removing the PPE.

I just reached out to my Aunt to get her take on what is going on, she has worked for the CDC for years.

[talisman]

Yeah run in to them all the time on here

How is that working out for you?

[SEB]

Have you met some of the people coming out of college! Unless the PPE that is/was being used is inadequate, I would still lean towards something happening during decontamination and removing the PPE.

I just reached out to my Aunt to get her take on what is going on, she has worked for the CDC for years.

I would go along with you on the first time and maybe the 2nd time. But when number 3 pops up. Then what excuse do you offer

[talisman]

I would go along with you on the first time and maybe the 2nd time. But when number 3 pops up. Then what excuse do you offer

This country has over 300 million people. Believe it or not, more than three of them are idiots, regardless of what a transcript says.

[Denny]

I call BS on that too. You ever seen what a nurse has to go through to become a RN. Believe me those people followed protocol! The Government is just saying they didnt to keep panic down. The two new patients are College educated people. They didnt get to where there at because they cant follow instructions

Bro. I was saying medical staff suck at donning/doffing procedures well before this second person was even known about. 8mpg was telling people on here that his team is an exception. Remember? Go back a couple days on here and reread.

If you haven't had first-hand experience in this, you really don't know.

[SEB]

How is that working out for you?

I have paid for piece of land. Own my own business started out mowing houses and now mow Commercial properties and own plenty of cars. I dont know you tell me. You own your house?

[TexasDevilDog]

I call BS on that too. You ever seen what a nurse has to go through to become a RN. Believe me those people followed protocol!

We don't know the credentials of the nurse infected, she could have been a LVN or a RN.

[Baron Von Crowder]

We don't know the credentials of the nurse infected, she could have been a LVN or a RN.

[talisman]

I have paid for piece of land. Own my own business started out mowing houses and now mow Commercial properties and own plenty of cars. I dont know you tell me. You own your house?

I meant intellectually. Most smart people don't measure the worth of their life in possessions.

[black2002ls]

I would go along with you on the first time and maybe the 2nd time. But when number 3 pops up. Then what excuse do you offer

Keep in mind, these people all work in close proximity, some people don't realize they are feeling feverish until they have an elevated fever! (not trying to explain it away, just throwing it out there) So at what point do they consider it contagious, the instant that a persons normal body temp of say 98.6, are they contagious the moment it hits 98.7 and continues to rise, or is it more say 100.1 and rising? It leaves a potentially broad window for something to be transmitted to someone else or to a surface, thus causing more infection.

side note: are you working on rebuilding the deck on 548?

[Strychnine]

Anyone in the government cares what the citizens think in mass. Don't be silly...with midterms coming, politicians will respond massively if they think it'll get votes

The worst thing you can do is downplay, belittle concerns, and try to ignore this. That's the mentality that got 2 more infected

Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying ignore it. But you know what is a close second behind downplaying and ignoring? Panic.

Yep im going today to stock up on Water and Canned chicken and Ramon noodles. I wonder how many of the big bottles of water I should get and how long should last a family 6 including a toddler. Looks like Sulpher Springs might be in our near future in the next month or two

Yep yep! The government isnt telling America that its going to get WAY WORSE! This shit might be Airborne and they really dont know the Incubation period of Ebola.

Whatever guys! I just hope im wrong and over reacting!

I call BS on all of it! Its here and its spreading with people wearing suits. Wake the fuck up people. Make jokes at me all you want, It is what it is!!!

my wife works for Med City and if they start getting Ebola Patients im going to beg her to QUIT

Not only is it bullshit panic, it's based on bad info.

Not Airborne yet they say. It def can mutate to Airborne easily!

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-the-ebola-virus-will-go-airborne/

Here is what it would take for it to become a real airborne risk: First off, a substantial amount of Ebola virus would need to start replicating in cells that reside in the throat, the bronchial tubes and possibly in the lungs. Second, the airborne method would have to be so much more efficient than the current extremely efficient means of transmission that it would overcome any genetic costs to the virus stemming from the mutation itself. Substantial natural hurdles make it unlikely that either event will occur.

they really dont know the Incubation period of Ebola.

I mean really, how in the fuck does he know that? Don't give him cart-blanch to spew bullshit just because "we can't ignore it."
Just because the incubation period is a large range does not mean it is not grounded in fact and study. "They don't know" is not the same as "I'm not comfortable with the results"

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3766904/

Objectives
Ebola hemorrhagic fever has killed over 1300 people, mostly in equatorial Africa. There is still uncertainty about the natural reservoir of the virus and about some of the factors involved in disease transmission. Until now, a maximum incubation period of 21 days has been assumed.

Methods
We analyzed data collected during the Ebola outbreak (subtype Zaire) in Kikwit, Democratic Republic of the Congo, in 1995 using maximum likelihood inference and assuming a log-normally distributed incubation period.

Results
The mean incubation period was estimated to be 12.7 days (standard deviation 4.31 days), indicating that about 4.1% of patients may have incubation periods longer than 21 days.

Conclusion
If the risk of new cases is to be reduced to 1% then 25 days should be used when investigating the source of an outbreak, when determining the duration of surveillance for contacts, and when declaring the end of an outbreak.

The minimum incubation period was calculated from the death of the index case to the onset of fever in the secondary case. The mean came out to be 7 days, and the range was from 1 day to 15 days. The maximum incubation period was calculated from the onset of fever in the index case to the onset of fever in the secondary case and the mean came out to be 17 days with the range going from 9 days to 25 days. Because infections occur between the onset of fever and the day of death, the mean incubation period should lie between 7 and 17 days

There's science in this post... SEB might not read it.

[SEB]

I meant intellectually. Most smart people don't measure the worth of their life in possessions.

Hanging out with you assholes for 15 years its starting to rub off on me

[SEB]

Keep in mind, these people all work in close proximity, some people don't realize they are feeling feverish until they have an elevated fever! (not trying to explain it away, just throwing it out there) So at what point do they consider it contagious, the instant that a persons normal body temp of say 98.6, are they contagious the moment it hits 98.7 and continues to rise, or is it more say 100.1 and rising? It leaves a potentially broad window for something to be transmitted to someone else or to a surface, thus causing more infection.

side note: are you working on rebuilding the deck on 548?

Thats my point! They dont know shit about this Ebola


Actually tearing the deck down to put in a Single Wide Trailer. Picked my singlewide up for CHEAP! Gotta Upgrade from my White Trash RV

[TexasDevilDog]

There's science in this post... SEB might not read it.

Solid science, no liber arts major please.

[Ruffdaddy]

Panic is far better than lax behavior.

And I haven't seen an ounce of panic yet...