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  • #31
    Originally posted by BradM View Post
    What charge did they book you on?
    Shhhh! It's a secret

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    • #32
      Originally posted by AnthonyS View Post
      He had no visual on you for 20 minutes.... How can he prove it wasn't another black car speeding that he saw? Hell you were at the bank. Are you sure you didn't eat lunch by the bank too? Heck you may not have been on that bridge for over an hour....

      This is a slam dunk to defend yourself. I do it every citation I receive. If you get a lawyer and they can't win this one for you, you should have them disbarred for incompetence.

      You were driving 120 behind him, and you didn't overtake and pass him? How the fuck fast was he driving 130? There are so many ways you can go on this one.....

      Because if he was driving the speed limit and you were driving 2X the speed limit you would overtake him really fast and he'd have rear radar, front radar and dashcam video of the pursuit. Does he have that? Obviously not.

      I'd have this guy laughed out of court by the judge.
      Hmmm, this guy makes a good point
      Originally posted by AnthonyS View Post
      If you pursue me you better turn your lights and sirens on the second you start. Because clearly I am driving in a dangerous and unreasonable matter. If you pursue me without your lights and sirens, you are driving faster than I am and clearly you think it is a reasonable and prudent speed. And if you think it's reasonable and prudent, you have no business impeding my travel. You are in a heavier car, with shittier brakes, shittier tires, and that doesn't handle nearly as well. You are the one being unsafe. Have a nice day.

      And this is why everyone that ever gets a ticket need to take it to court. The courts would be over run with needless bullshit of their own creation and would have to find legitimate means to raise funds to pay for shit the city doesn't need.

      You're right, you don't have to do anything until you are ready to do it. It might be best if you did nothing and just sipped Starbucks and collected your pension.
      Aaaaaaand it's gone
      Originally posted by Theodore Roosevelt
      It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming...

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      • #33
        Originally posted by AnthonyS View Post
        If you pursue me you better turn your lights and sirens on the second you start. Because clearly I am driving in a dangerous and unreasonable matter. If you pursue me without your lights and sirens, you are driving faster than I am and clearly you think it is a reasonable and prudent speed. And if you think it's reasonable and prudent, you have no business impeding my travel. You are in a heavier car, with shittier brakes, shittier tires, and that doesn't handle nearly as well. You are the one being unsafe. Have a nice day.

        And this is why everyone that ever gets a ticket need to take it to court. The courts would be over run with needless bullshit of their own creation and would have to find legitimate means to raise funds to pay for shit the city doesn't need.

        You're right, you don't have to do anything until you are ready to do it. It might be best if you did nothing and just sipped Starbucks and collected your pension.
        So I see your inspection out and you are pulling up to a light. I signal and turn around, getting behind you. I activate my over heads and stop you after we safely clear the intersection. I was giving him a general answer to his theory on when my overheads need to come on. If they are speeding generally I flip them on the minute my radar tags them since I will have to play a little catch up. I am not a speeding ticket type of guy but I will stop you and visit if you are hauling ass. His whole little spill was hard to read and a little out there so I was curious of what he meant on all points. Thanks for your brilliant insight on the subject. Next time I will be more specific on my light activation and type of stop.
        Whos your Daddy?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by kingjason View Post
          So I see your inspection out and you are pulling up to a light. I signal and turn around, getting behind you. I activate my over heads and stop you after we safely clear the intersection. I was giving him a general answer to his theory on when my overheads need to come on. If they are speeding generally I flip them on the minute my radar tags them since I will have to play a little catch up. I am not a speeding ticket type of guy but I will stop you and visit if you are hauling ass. His whole little spill was hard to read and a little out there so I was curious of what he meant on all points. Thanks for your brilliant insight on the subject. Next time I will be more specific on my light activation and type of stop.
          I don't think you were clear enough... do you have another example us simpletons can understand?

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          • #35
            Never answer when questioned by the police. They remember and write stuff down wrong all the time.

            From a law school professor.

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            private:
            char Forrest, Jenny, Momma, LtDan;
            double Peas, Carrots;
            string MommaAlwaysSaid(const bool AddAnyTime = True)
            };

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Roscoe View Post
              I don't think you were clear enough... do you have another example us simpletons can understand?
              Really I had no clue what he was referring too in most of his post. I think he meant that there was no video in court of the stop. Depending on the length of time from the stop to the court date there may not be. The requirement for saved data on most non major events is 90 days. We all know attorneys can play games and drag things out for a while. Also I am not sure what he wants on radar evidence as he calls it. His story was just not understandable or reasonable from my experience. I worked in the courts and warrants for two years.

              I will give you a little insight from two cities though. One city I worked for does not bring video to court, does not bring anything radar related to court, and really it is just testimony vs testimony. Most people set up court dates hoping the police just wont show up. Not showing up is a write up in any city I am aware of. Generally though we jot down the serial number and model of the radar.

              The other city I have experience with saves video of every stop a little longer then that. The guys I work with not only burn the video for court, but spin the camera around and show the readings on the radar which gives out a lot of info. Not only that but my video backs up a full minute before the stop.

              I play a lot of catch and release in my job. I stop people for solid violations and basically tell them to slow down or get their shit fixed a lot. DL, FMFR, Inspection and Registration are what I deal with the most. The first two people really should have to be out driving around. The second two are basically fix it tickets and have zero affect on your record.

              Instead of sitting around the donut shop waiting to collect my pension Friday, I was out catching the burglars that have been raining havoc on my city for two weeks. 27 BMVs to be exact I think. Tagged the first one that morning after a helpful tip and being in the right spot at the right time, then got the second one that evening after an extensive investigation that led to a foot chase at 530 and then pulling him off the roof of a warehouse building. Yep all cops are a bunch of worthless jack booted thugs! I am always up for a friendly debate on the subjects at hand but the shitty comments and insinuations get a little old.
              Whos your Daddy?

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              • #37
                I did not mean for my comments to come across as FTP if they did.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by thomasblively View Post
                  I did not mean for my comments to come across as FTP if they did.
                  They did not Thomas.

                  Some of the things you said just did not really make a lot of sense in defense of a citation. I really think you just where not presenting the information properly. Am I right you where wondering why there was not camera evidence when you where describing the lights being on? Also would you say I am in the ball park when you are talking about radar evidence? What you presented vs what actually may have happened where not really jiving, so it appeared as if your story was a bit off per say. I don't doubt you got out of a ticket I was just doubting the reasoning on some of it.
                  Whos your Daddy?

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                  • #39
                    Yes you are correct sir. My statement on activating the lights/sirens was based on the fact no video/radar evidence was presented. I definitely see now how crazy my first post read.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by kingjason View Post
                      Really I had no clue what he was referring too in most of his post. I think he meant that there was no video in court of the stop. Depending on the length of time from the stop to the court date there may not be. The requirement for saved data on most non major events is 90 days. We all know attorneys can play games and drag things out for a while. Also I am not sure what he wants on radar evidence as he calls it. His story was just not understandable or reasonable from my experience. I worked in the courts and warrants for two years.

                      I will give you a little insight from two cities though. One city I worked for does not bring video to court, does not bring anything radar related to court, and really it is just testimony vs testimony. Most people set up court dates hoping the police just wont show up. Not showing up is a write up in any city I am aware of. Generally though we jot down the serial number and model of the radar.

                      The other city I have experience with saves video of every stop a little longer then that. The guys I work with not only burn the video for court, but spin the camera around and show the readings on the radar which gives out a lot of info. Not only that but my video backs up a full minute before the stop.

                      I play a lot of catch and release in my job. I stop people for solid violations and basically tell them to slow down or get their shit fixed a lot. DL, FMFR, Inspection and Registration are what I deal with the most. The first two people really should have to be out driving around. The second two are basically fix it tickets and have zero affect on your record.

                      Instead of sitting around the donut shop waiting to collect my pension Friday, I was out catching the burglars that have been raining havoc on my city for two weeks. 27 BMVs to be exact I think. Tagged the first one that morning after a helpful tip and being in the right spot at the right time, then got the second one that evening after an extensive investigation that led to a foot chase at 530 and then pulling him off the roof of a warehouse building. Yep all cops are a bunch of worthless jack booted thugs! I am always up for a friendly debate on the subjects at hand but the shitty comments and insinuations get a little old.
                      While I was being facetious, excellent response. Too bad there aren't more guys like you out there, as the majority of those that take the headlines are looking to fuel their ego.

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                      • #41
                        good thing you didnt have adog with you.

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                          • #43
                            Not sure if I'm spelling the name correctly...Randal Scott
                            Originally posted by Da Prez
                            Fuck dfwstangs!! If Jose ain't running it, I won't even bother going back to it, just my two cents!!
                            Originally posted by VETTKLR


                            Cliff Notes: I can beat the fuck out of a ZR1

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                            • #44
                              Why did you goto jail?

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by jewozzy View Post
                                Why did you goto jail?
                                Originally posted by Broncojohnny
                                Would you like your reparations in 5.56mm or 7.62mm?

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