Tarrant County Police Set for 'No Refusal' Weekend

[broke again]

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Tar...265428251.html

Yes. Your body is the epitome of Private Property. If you can be compelled to bleed or give other DNA to convict yourself, against your will, that is a violation of the constitution.

so no to the use of fingerprints to convict?

[davbrucas]

Times change. People EXPECT more evidence and when you don't get it, they're suspicious.
And with a 99% Plead guilty rate on blood cases, why would you not go the extra mile and avoid a 2 day trial where the outcome is a crap shoot.

So you forcibly take blood from them to provide evidence against them? Do you agree with doing this? If they are obviously impaired then yes...but if you just suspect that they have been drinking and the FST is equivocal, then forcing them to give blood is chicken shit and for tax collecting purposes only.

[dcs13]

So you forcibly take blood from them to provide evidence against them? Do you agree with doing this? If they are obviously impaired then yes...but if you just suspect that they have been drinking and the FST is equivocal, then forcing them to give blood is chicken shit and for tax collecting purposes only.

It's a search warrant. No search warrant shall be issued without probable cause. Therefore, there is no "guessing" they're intoxicated. you need to have articulable probable cause that they are DWI and you want to collect the evidence .
And if you review the SFST's and understand them and the "decision points" involved in this "science" then the SFST's are a huge part in getting a blood warrant. The SFST's are proven science. There were even additional studies when the BAC was lowered to .08. ..They're still valid science.
And if you ask the cops, I bet the actual number of "forcible" blood draws is less than .05% and most agencies won't attempt a draw if they're resisting that much...
Oh and to your "tax collecting suggestion- DWI cases are a net loss in revenues. Most fines are very minimal and in many cases no fines are imposed. (data available online at the county case lookup). It's cost much more money to intake and prosecute the case than is ever collected. Now, DPS will charge your ass in surcharges for a a few years and your defense attorney will charge you to plead it out and make you feel like you're getting a deal...

[TexasDevilDog]

so no to the use of fingerprints to convict?

If they peel the skin off someone's fingers, I would say no. Finger printing someone is not invasive.

[Forever_frost]

so no to the use of fingerprints to convict?

Did you hold someone down and invade their body to take their fingerprints? Are you saying fingerprints that are left on anything you touch is the same as having a needle jammed in your arm?

[David]

The only revenue generation from any arrests or convictions is in state grants provided to county agencies.

[Forever_frost]

It's a search warrant. No search warrant shall be issued without probable cause. Therefore, there is no "guessing" they're intoxicated. you need to have articulable probable cause that they are DWI and you want to collect the evidence .
And if you review the SFST's and understand them and the "decision points" involved in this "science" then the SFST's are a huge part in getting a blood warrant. The SFST's are proven science. There were even additional studies when the BAC was lowered to .08. ..They're still valid science.
And if you ask the cops, I bet the actual number of "forcible" blood draws is less than .05% and most agencies won't attempt a draw if they're resisting that much...
Oh and to your "tax collecting suggestion- DWI cases are a net loss in revenues. Most fines are very minimal and in many cases no fines are imposed. (data available online at the county case lookup). It's cost much more money to intake and prosecute the case than is ever collected. Now, DPS will charge your ass in surcharges for a a few years and your defense attorney will charge you to plead it out and make you feel like you're getting a deal...

Right and if a cop draws your blood and you are 100% sober, what is the penalty on the cop that falsified a report to forcefully draw your blood?

[David]

Tarrant County Police Set for 'No Refusal' Weekend

Right and if a cop draws your blood and you are 100% sober, what is the penalty on the cop that falsified a report to forcefully draw your blood?

It's goes to the DPS lab to sit for 2 yrs while you're on bond to find out if there was any other drugs in your system.

[dcs13]

Just pulling one out of the air I searched the Collin County site. Here is a guy that pleads guilty to DWI #2 WITH an open container...His court fees (read fine) amounted to $449.10... Just go to the County site and put in a common name and look up the DWi cases...You tell me where all the revenue generation is...


Offense Code Description Offense Date Degree Level Statute Fine Amount Arresting Agency Arrest Date Filing Agency
54040016 DRIVING WHILE INTOXICATED/OPEN CONT 2ND 04/13/2011 111 Class A Misdemeanor 49.09 (a) Allen Police Department 04/13/2011 Allen Police Department
Disposition
Date Disposition
06/22/2011 Convicted
Case Events
Date Event Type Comments Cancelled Reason Time Judge
04/27/2011 TFDA - Order for Crt Appointed Attorney by TFDA Dale Rose
04/29/2011 Case Filed By Information (OCA)
05/16/2011 Notice to Appear Issued - $5.00
06/15/2011 First Appearance 8:29 AM
06/22/2011 Plea - Agreed Cancelled: No Action Taken 8:30 AM
06/22/2011 Docket Sheet
06/22/2011 Plea Bargain Packet
06/22/2011 Plea
06/22/2011 Disposition
06/22/2011 Sentenced - Local Jail
06/22/2011 Judgment Indexing
06/27/2011 Executed Commitment Pd Instanter
07/15/2011 Plea - Agreed Cancelled: No Action Taken 8:29 AM

Financial Summary
Defendant
Charges : $449.10
Payments: $449.10
Balance : $0.00

Here is the case look up link: http://apps.collincountytx.gov/cccasesearch/

[Forever_frost]

$500, no one protected and he'll be out doing it next weekend. They pull the license and the offender keeps driving just like everyone else who drives illegally. This is an unconstitutional seizure of your most personal and private of properties.

If you get jabbed because a cop thinks you're drunk and you're clean, you should be able to sue that cop individually. Make it cost them enough so that they're cautious.