Tarrant County Police Set for 'No Refusal' Weekend

[davbrucas]

Why should I or anyone else have to prove our innocence? Shouldn't the onus be on the police to prove it without forcing someone to provide evidence against themselves?

That's where the problem is. You think that just because you have the idea that someone is drunk means they are, and they must now prove their innocence. That's fucked up. I refuse to offer up any information or possible things that can do me harm.

At least that's the impression that you gave to me when you replied.

Their reasoning for this is that they say that driving is a privilege and you give up your rights when operating a motor vehicle on govt roadways...stupid, but that's the shit law.

[davbrucas]

I want to hear how many people are hauled down to have their weekend ruined because they refused to be forced to prove they haven't been drinking.

To quote the baconeers on here..."If you have nothing to hide, then you should not have a problem with them violating your rights!"

[racrguy]

you're not thinking of the children!!!!!!!!!

Fuck the children. A resurgence of SIDS should be a thing.

[Mike]

Fuck the children. A resurgence of SIDS should be a thing.

That's rough.

[Cooter]

[racrguy]

That's rough.

Simmer down now, it's a rhetorical device.

[inline 6]

When you are forced how exactly does that work?

[Broncojohnny]

Their reasoning for this is that they say that driving is a privilege and you give up your rights when operating a motor vehicle on govt roadways...stupid, but that's the shit law.

My favorite is the rubber stamp warrant process. That is the real "no refusal" in the no refusal weekend.

[Forever_frost]

Then blow. Or give a blood sample. People always say they ain't drunk. Ok fine. Then prove it to yourself. Otherwise ur left to the courts to decide. And it's 50/50 in there... I could have a slam dunk drunk and still lose because of a semi decent def attorney. If a person isn't drunk or high, then ur clues will be slim. And on video in court a weak sfst REALLY shines.

Right and if I see a cop weaving, do I have the option to force him to give a breathalyzer sample or draw his blood?

[Forever_frost]

Why should I or anyone else have to prove our innocence? Shouldn't the onus be on the police to prove it without forcing someone to provide evidence against themselves?

That's where the problem is. You think that just because you have the idea that someone is drunk means they are, and they must now prove their innocence. That's fucked up. I refuse to offer up any information or possible things that can do me harm.

At least that's the impression that you gave to me when you replied.

This. I'm being forced to give evidence that could harm me. You think you have a case? Prove it in court, don't expect me to hang myself.

[talisman]

To quote the baconeers on here..."If you have nothing to hide, then you should not have a problem with them violating your rights!"

I had a scuffle on FB with some broad on the DFW Scanner feed a couple of days ago after she started complaining that Texas doesn't have DUI checkpoints. Her and some other moron from NY both literally said with all sincerity "If you don't have anything to hide you have nothing to worry about." Talk about missing the fucking point.

[dcs13]

This. I'm being forced to give evidence that could harm me. You think you have a case? Prove it in court, don't expect me to hang myself.

Would you be against forcibly taking a DNA sample (pursuant to a search warrant) for other types or criminal cases ?

[kingjason]

I want to hear how many people are hauled down to have their weekend ruined because they refused to be forced to prove they haven't been drinking.

Actually I wouldn't mind hearing this stat. I have yet to see one get blood drawn that was not two or three times the legal limit. I am sure you can find a couple of cases but I doubt it is over a single digit stat. I would bet that some of those could be diabetics, and new officers.

[kingjason]

Would you be against forcibly taking a DNA sample (pursuant to a search warrant) for other types or criminal cases ?

Don't get all rapey and shit up in here!

[davbrucas]

I had a scuffle on FB with some broad on the DFW Scanner feed a couple of days ago after she started complaining that Texas doesn't have DUI checkpoints. Her and some other moron from NY both literally said with all sincerity "If you don't have anything to hide you have nothing to worry about." Talk about missing the fucking point.

Manipulation of the masses (ignorant) in full effect...

7. Keep the public in ignorance and mediocrity

Making the public incapable of understanding the technologies and methods used to control and enslavement.

“The quality of education given to the lower social classes must be the poor and mediocre as possible so that the gap of ignorance it plans among the lower classes and upper classes is and remains impossible to attain for the lower classes.” (See Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars).

8. To encourage the public to be complacent with mediocrity

Promote the public to believe that the fact is fashionable to be stupid, vulgar and uneducated…

http://theinternationalcoalition.blogspot.com/2011/07/noam-chomsky-top-10-media-manipulation_08.html