How many think that the troops are really fighting for our freedom?

[slow99]

World Domination!!!! (except for that one country)

[mstng86]

You know, it kind of sounds like he would have been fine with a nazi Europe.

[jnobles06]

So you think after hitler took all of Europe his next step wasn't going to be the US?


Can I have whatever this guy is drinking right now?

Guess someone forgot about pearl harbor. We weren't even in the war and got attacked.

[cyclonescott]

So you think after hitler took all of Europe his next step wasn't going to be the US?


Can I have whatever this guy is drinking right now?

Like I said before, Hitler would have never been as successful as he was without the support of backers in the US.

[cyclonescott]

Guess someone forgot about pearl harbor. We weren't even in the war and got attacked.

In June 1940, Henry L. Stimson, who had been secretary of war under Taft and secretary of state under Hoover, became secretary of war again. Stimson was a lion of the Anglophile, northeastern upper crust and no friend of the Japanese. In support of the so-called Open Door Policy for China, Stimson favored the use of economic sanctions to obstruct Japan’s advance in Asia. Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau and Interior Secretary Harold Ickes vigorously endorsed this policy. Roosevelt hoped that such sanctions would goad the Japanese into making a rash mistake by launching a war against the United States, which would bring in Germany because Japan and Germany were allied.

Accordingly, the Roosevelt administration, while curtly dismissing Japanese diplomatic overtures to harmonize relations, imposed a series of increasingly stringent economic sanctions on Japan. In 1939 the United States terminated the 1911 commercial treaty with Japan. “On July 2, 1940, Roosevelt signed the Export Control Act, authorizing the President to license or prohibit the export of essential defense materials.” Under this authority, “[o]n July 31, exports of aviation motor fuels and lubricants and No. 1 heavy melting iron and steel scrap were restricted.” Next, in a move aimed at Japan, Roosevelt slapped an embargo, effective October 16, “on all exports of scrap iron and steel to destinations other than Britain and the nations of the Western Hemisphere.” Finally, on July 26, 1941, Roosevelt “froze Japanese assets in the United States, thus bringing commercial relations between the nations to an effective end. One week later Roosevelt embargoed the export of such grades of oil as still were in commercial flow to Japan.”[2] The British and the Dutch followed suit, embargoing exports to Japan from their colonies in southeast Asia.

http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1930

[Scott Mc]

So you think after hitler took all of Europe his next step wasn't going to be the US?

NAAAAAAAH!!!! He just wanted half the world....

Can I have whatever this guy is drinking right now?

Guess someone forgot about pearl harbor. We weren't even in the war and got attacked.

Doesn't count cause it is an Island and they were in the air!

In all seriousness, IMO WW2 was a turning point for our country. Good or bad, it changed forever.

[jnobles06]

In June 1940, Henry L. Stimson, who had been secretary of war under Taft and secretary of state under Hoover, became secretary of war again. Stimson was a lion of the Anglophile, northeastern upper crust and no friend of the Japanese. In support of the so-called Open Door Policy for China, Stimson favored the use of economic sanctions to obstruct Japan’s advance in Asia. Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau and Interior Secretary Harold Ickes vigorously endorsed this policy. Roosevelt hoped that such sanctions would goad the Japanese into making a rash mistake by launching a war against the United States, which would bring in Germany because Japan and Germany were allied.

Accordingly, the Roosevelt administration, while curtly dismissing Japanese diplomatic overtures to harmonize relations, imposed a series of increasingly stringent economic sanctions on Japan. In 1939 the United States terminated the 1911 commercial treaty with Japan. “On July 2, 1940, Roosevelt signed the Export Control Act, authorizing the President to license or prohibit the export of essential defense materials.” Under this authority, “[o]n July 31, exports of aviation motor fuels and lubricants and No. 1 heavy melting iron and steel scrap were restricted.” Next, in a move aimed at Japan, Roosevelt slapped an embargo, effective October 16, “on all exports of scrap iron and steel to destinations other than Britain and the nations of the Western Hemisphere.” Finally, on July 26, 1941, Roosevelt “froze Japanese assets in the United States, thus bringing commercial relations between the nations to an effective end. One week later Roosevelt embargoed the export of such grades of oil as still were in commercial flow to Japan.”[2] The British and the Dutch followed suit, embargoing exports to Japan from their colonies in southeast Asia.

http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1930

like i said we weren't in the war. we sought a peaceful resolution by restricting resources to try and impede the war, which is our right as a nation, and then they attacked.

your argument is that they wouldn't have had the resources to wage war on us, but as you can see they would have brought war to us before they ran out because they needed the resources, which they did just that.

hindsight is always 20/20

[mstng86]

I'm all for thinking outside the box, but believing the US could have and should have stayed out of WWII is just asinine.

[Nash B.]

There was a reason it was called World War II and not the Euro-Asian War.

[cyclonescott]

like i said we weren't in the war. we sought a peaceful resolution by restricting resources to try and impede the war, which is our right as a nation, and then they attacked.

your argument is that they wouldn't have had the resources to wage war on us, but as you can see they would have brought war to us before they ran out because they needed the resources, which they did just that.

hindsight is always 20/20

I disagree that sanctions are a peaceful resolution. The US and British imperialism had taken away Japans access to the resources in the pacific. They wouldn’t have attacked if we had continued to trade freely with them.
Remember that they attacked us on an island that we had forcefully taken less than 50 year earlier.

[cyclonescott]

I'm all for thinking outside the box, but believing the US could have and should have stayed out of WWII is just asinine.

They majority of Americans wanted nothing to do with the war back in the late 30’s and there was actually a significant amount of people that supported Germany over Britain.

[mstng86]

They majority of Americans wanted nothing to do with the war back in the late 30’s and there was actually a significant amount of people that supported Germany over Britain.

Oh yea. And I wonder how many of those supporters were aware of the mass genocide occurring.

Of course people were against a war with Germany, who the hell really wants to go to war?

[cyclonescott]

Oh yea. And I wonder how many of those supporters were aware of the mass genocide occurring.

Of course people were against a war with Germany, who the hell really wants to go to war?

The mass genocide that was happening in a gas chamber with chemicals supplied by IG Farben, the German subsidiary of Standard Oil.
Oh, and don’t forget about the Jew’s who were turned away at American shores, even when the US government knew about the genocides.

[lowthreeohz]

Oh, and don’t forget about the Jew’s who were turned away at American shores, even when the US government knew about the genocides.

apostrophe genocide.

[jnobles06]

The mass genocide that was happening in a gas chamber with chemicals supplied by IG Farben, the German subsidiary of Standard Oil.
Oh, and don’t forget about the Jew’s who were turned away at American shores, even when the US government knew about the genocides.

how can you say japan sanctions were wrong, but then want to take away germany's posion gas and have the US aid jews.

if your stance is US neutrality; if you are supplying one with the resources to make war then you can't take away the other or else the US wouldn't be neutral anymore.