2015 Mustang GT MSRP starts at $32,925

[dblack1]

New cars are expensive. I'd like to see how this all plays out. I cannot see them increasing prices fast enough to offset the lack of volume. How are the generation just out of college going to buy everything, house, car, etc?

I recently shopped for a new wrangler and was surprised by how basic you could still get one. I guess the manufacturers can make a car with gobs of base options cheaper than retooling for making a truly base model car.

[talisman]

I still can't figure out how a Wrangler can cost 30k new, or how they hold their value so well. There must just be a huge demand. Before I picked up that 4Runner last year I was considering a Wrangler, but they all seemed to cost about twice as much as I personally thought they were worth. I also can't figure out why with all the technology we have they still get absolute SHIT for gas milage. And almost every car I've ever owned has gotten under 20 mpg, but Wranglers are so excessively bad there was just no way for me to justify it.

[crapstang]

I've been out on the ocean for a week, so I'm definitely behind.

[03mustangdude]

i'll stick with the 12. Did they put in push button start yet it doesn't look like it from the pictures.

[Cooter]

Well, after seeing this it's a given that I'll never own a new one of these unless I win the lottery. I just ain't ballin' like I was in the old days, and the last thing I want is a 5-6-7 year new car note.

Its funny how priorities and wisdom change as you get older. Let someone else absorb the depreciation.

I've never been able to accept the depreciation. We'll likely keep buying new for the wife, but she'll keep a vehicle 6-8yrs. It's just easier for the sake of convenience and peace of mind.

I'm coming up on 4yrs on my F350, and that's a straight up record for me. Typically more like 9-18 months. I turn them over quick and try to make money or at least break even. I see it as a free lease

[black50]

I still can't figure out how a Wrangler can cost 30k new, or how they hold their value so well. There must just be a huge demand. Before I picked up that 4Runner last year I was considering a Wrangler, but they all seemed to cost about twice as much as I personally thought they were worth. I also can't figure out why with all the technology we have they still get absolute SHIT for gas milage. And almost every car I've ever owned has gotten under 20 mpg, but Wranglers are so excessively bad there was just no way for me to justify it.

They get shit gas milage because they are severely underpowered, and that little six has to work its ass off. I just don't understand why Chrysler doesn't put the HEMI in it.

[mikeb]

I've never been able to accept the depreciation. We'll likely keep buying new for the wife, but she'll keep a vehicle 6-8yrs. It's just easier for the sake of convenience and peace of mind.



I'm coming up on 4yrs on my F350, and that's a straight up record for me. Typically more like 9-18 months. I turn them over quick and try to make money or at least break even. I see it as a free lease

I drive mine until the wheels fall off. The car I've got now is a 1999 jeep cherokee sport with 200,000 miles on it. I paid $6k for it used about 4 years ago and the only major expense I've had is the trans died. I picked up a used trans and replaced it myself. I'm hoping for another 100,000 miles before it completely dies.

I'd love to have a new car but I just don't have the money for one.



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[Cooter]

new is nice, but it doesn't pay any bills...

I like a nice 5yr old 100k+ mile vehicle that's taken the brunt of the depreciation hit and just took the "out of warranty" hit... buy it right, drive it a year or two, and break even or make some money on it.

been operating that way for 15yrs... I looked at new trucks a few months ago, but the thought of eating $20-30k over the course of 2-3yrs vs. breaking even or even only eating a few grand just doesn't work for me

[white trash wagon]

new is nice, but it doesn't pay any bills...

I like a nice 5yr old 100k+ mile vehicle that's taken the brunt of the depreciation hit and just took the "out of warranty" hit... buy it right, drive it a year or two, and break even or make some money on it.

been operating that way for 15yrs... I looked at new trucks a few months ago, but the thought of eating $20-30k over the course of 2-3yrs vs. breaking even or even only eating a few grand just doesn't work for me

If you trade every 2-3 years, that's the smart way to do it.

For daily drivers, I tend to keep vehicles 10 years ( or more), and peace of mind of knowing the car was treated right from day one is worth it.

I did buy a used Lincoln LS as a DD in 2010, but after discovering it had rust in the hood & deck lid, then having several mechanical issues- I was pleased it was totaled after baseball size hail in 2012. But I will say that State Farm give me a check for $400 less than I paid for it-after driving it 2 years.

[Mysticcobrakilla]

new is nice, but it doesn't pay any bills...

I like a nice 5yr old 100k+ mile vehicle that's taken the brunt of the depreciation hit and just took the "out of warranty" hit... buy it right, drive it a year or two, and break even or make some money on it.

been operating that way for 15yrs... I looked at new trucks a few months ago, but the thought of eating $20-30k over the course of 2-3yrs vs. breaking even or even only eating a few grand just doesn't work for me

Not that my old pos 7.3 is anything special, I have random people offer to buy it for more than I paid for it all the time. I couldn't agree more on buying well used diesels.

[CJ]

I still can't figure out how a Wrangler can cost 30k new, or how they hold their value so well. There must just be a huge demand. Before I picked up that 4Runner last year I was considering a Wrangler, but they all seemed to cost about twice as much as I personally thought they were worth. I also can't figure out why with all the technology we have they still get absolute SHIT for gas milage. And almost every car I've ever owned has gotten under 20 mpg, but Wranglers are so excessively bad there was just no way for me to justify it.

part of my job is doing vehicle value retention analysis. The wrangler is unique among all other domestic vehicles. It has the best value retention of any vehicle. They have the best long term demand of any vehicle. It truly is the perfect vehicle, men love them, women love them, kids love them. They offer things no other vehicle does... Removable doors, top, fold down windshield. Just a unique vehicle.

[Craizie]

i'll stick with the 12. Did they put in push button start yet it doesn't look like it from the pictures.

It looks like it in the pictures. Bottom left on the center consol.

[dblack1]

new is nice, but it doesn't pay any bills...

I like a nice 5yr old 100k+ mile vehicle that's taken the brunt of the depreciation hit and just took the "out of warranty" hit... buy it right, drive it a year or two, and break even or make some money on it.

been operating that way for 15yrs... I looked at new trucks a few months ago, but the thought of eating $20-30k over the course of 2-3yrs vs. breaking even or even only eating a few grand just doesn't work for me

Really depends. I drove my 2010 almost 4 years/60k miles for a cost around $14k. Pretty cheap per year for having a new truck. Tax benefits aside, I probably wouldn't do it. I've never ate anywhere near $30k, maybe $20k once or twice, but that was a few year old truck with close to 100k miles. I'm speaking of diesels here.

[dblack1]

part of my job is doing vehicle value retention analysis. The wrangler is unique among all other domestic vehicles. It has the best value retention of any vehicle. They have the best long term demand of any vehicle. It truly is the perfect vehicle, men love them, women love them, kids love them. They offer things no other vehicle does... Removable doors, top, fold down windshield. Just a unique vehicle.

Value retention is right. I was looking at newer used, that got me on the new lot with a quickness. Now I'm back looking at 04-06.

[yellowstang]

Was watching The Blacklist on the DVR and saw this commercial for the first time.