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  • The People vs. Meter Maids. (not really an FTP thread for those who are menstruating)

    This is hilarious on so many different levels.


    KEENE, N.H. — In most places, the parking enforcement officer reflects the municipal compact. Armed only with a gadget that can spit out a ticket at the forgotten drop of a dime, the officer quietly serves civic and commercial life by ensuring that meters are fed.

    In most places, yes. But not here in charming Keene, where parking officers figure in a philosophical tug of war between a small band of activists who live by the motto “Free Keene,” and the great majority of residents who were unaware that their city was in bondage.

    Keene’s two parking officers, both women, are often videotaped by young adults known as “Robin Hooders.” They track the whereabouts of the officers by two-way radio, feed expired meters before $5 tickets can be written, and leave a business card saying that “we saved you from the king’s tariff.”

    Welcome to Sherwood Forest, N.H., where these acts of charity have led to some donations and gratitude, but also to sidewalk tensions, harassment allegations and litigation. They are part of a broader effort by about two-dozen activists, most of them from someplace else, to unshackle Keene from the “violent monopoly” of government and its enforcers, including these parking officers who work in weather fair and foul.

    The mundane matter of parking has become so contentious that a third parking officer, an ex-soldier who served in Iraq, quit last year because, he says, he could no longer take the close-up videotaping and the taunts that “I had condoned the droning of brown babies.” So contentious that the mayor, the city manager, and the city attorney all declined even to say hello to me.

    But some local residents are speaking out in their stead by challenging the activists through a Facebook page with the unwieldy name of “Stop Free Keene!!!” One of its organizers, Andrea Parkhurst Whitcomb, is asking the relative newcomers a fundamental question:

    “Who asked you to come free us?”

    The activists selected this New England-cute city of 24,000 for liberation mostly because it lies within that flinty bastion of Yankee individualism known as New Hampshire, where “Live Free or Die” is carved into the collective granite.

    Back in 2003, a libertarian-leaning group called the Free State Project decided that this small state could be a liberty lover’s paradise if enough like-minded people settled here. (The movement, by the way, tends to attract white males, according to Carla Gericke, the group’s president, a white South African who has lived for many years in this country. “I’m the token African-American,” she joked.)

    A dozen years in, the Free State Project is about three-quarters of the way toward achieving its goal of having 20,000 people commit to relocating to the state, after which it will “trigger the move.” The project has already influenced the statewide conversation at times — partly because of “early movers” like Ian Freeman, a Floridian who bought an old white duplex on Leverett Street several years ago and quickly set out to push local buttons.

    There have been marijuana gatherings in the central square. Make-believe drinking of alcohol at City Council meetings. Leafleting outside public schools. And many video-recorded encounters in which the activists are the earnest heroes of their own narratives, holding accountable the employees of a government they do not generally recognize.

    In one notorious instance, a grandmotherly crossing guard smacked at their camera with her stop-sign placard.

    The gangly Mr. Freeman, born Ian Bernard, drives an auctioned-off police car with Wisconsin plates, hasn’t paid federal taxes for a decade, and has donated his house to the recently established Shire Free Church, which is now seeking tax-exempt status. From this “parsonage,” he broadcasts his nationwide “Free Talk Live” radio show several nights a week.

    Mr. Freeman, 33, has been repeatedly arrested, and once served 58 days in jail for disorderly conduct after standing in front of a police car to protest a woman’s arrest because she had an open can of beer. He is guided, he says, by his “voluntarist” belief that “all human interaction should be consensual,” which might surprise the human parking officers who do not consent to being followed or videotaped.

    This shadowing of parking enforcement officers has received the most publicity by far. Videotapes show the officers being dogged by activists who sometimes goad with pleasantries like: “How do you live with yourself?”

    After the officers complained about skyrocketing stress last year, the situation became even more surreal, with Keene hiring a private investigator to follow and videotape the activists following and videotaping the parking enforcers. The city then filed a legal complaint against several activists, including Mr. Freeman, accusing them of harassment and seeking a buffer zone between activist and parking officer.

    “They would try to make comments to bait me about my faith, about my military status,” Alan Givetz, the ex-soldier, recalled recently. He said that he tried being nice, then oblivious, then angry, but to no avail.

    Finally, Mr. Givetz, who served 22 months in Iraq as a military police officer, quit his job handing out parking tickets. “I couldn’t take it anymore,” he said. “I didn’t see an end in sight.”

    Mr. Freeman denied that he and his colleagues have harassed anyone. But he noted that enduring verbal and mental abuse is part of the officers’ job description. “If it’s too stressful,” he said, “maybe it’s not the right job for you.”

    James Cleaveland, an accountant who helped to popularize Robin Hooding in Keene, sounded like a dental surgeon when he said that as he videotapes the officers, “I try to make it as comfortable as I can.” Still, he said, “My ultimate mission is to prevent the state from getting involved in other people’s lives.”

    But there are reasons “the state” uses parking meters, tickets and even tow trucks, according to Gary Lamoureux, Keene’s project manager for parking and the only city official to comment. “It’s to have turnover for the business owners in the downtown area,” he said. In other words, to support the marketplace.

    In December, a Cheshire County Superior Court judge cited free-speech protections in dismissing the city’s complaint, as well as its request to be reimbursed for costs that included therapy sessions for the officers. The activists celebrated a victory in the courts they disdain; the city appealed.

    Mr. Freeman said that some in the larger Free State Project disapproved of his tactics, believing that they might alienate New Hampshire residents before the group has made clear its purpose. But he has no remorse, he said. “We’ve brought millions of dollars of press coverage.”

    Ms. Gericke, the project’s president, said that “we want to be good, productive neighbors” who “don’t want to poison the well.” But she added that Robin Hooding in Keene is evolving, and has become a great means of outreach.

    “Freedom is messy,” she said.

    Mr. Freeman’s movement has inspired many to take up activism — against him. The Stop Free Keene!!! Facebook page has seen a recent spike in membership, to more than 850, and its organizers have begun handing out anti-Free Keene leaflets that accuse the “antigovernment” activists of “attempting to infiltrate OUR beautiful community.”

    Ms. Whitcomb and others, including Mr. Givetz, the former parking enforcement officer, gathered last month at McCue’s billiards and sports lounge, where the Free Keeners also socialize, to vent about the divisiveness.

    “It’s not comfortable anymore,” Tammy Adams, a registered nurse and beekeeper, said. “Everyone’s on edge.”

    But the imperfect municipal compact of Keene has been around since 1753. Things have a way of sorting themselves out.

    Recently Mr. Freeman publicly “demoted” a Robin Hooder for being a bit too belligerent. A local man is facing charges that he chased and threatened a couple of Robin Hooders. And city officials are exploring a plan to raise the cost of parking in the Shire of Keene, to 50 cents an hour.


  • #2
    People abusing and harassing someone else just isn't funny to me. The meter maids are just doing a job, theres no point in making their life hell - they didn't write the law or city policy.

    Someone just figured out how to be an asshole and do it under the guise of a "protest"/

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Binky View Post
      People abusing and harassing someone else just isn't funny to me. The meter maids are just doing a job, theres no point in making their life hell - they didn't write the law or city policy.

      Someone just figured out how to be an asshole and do it under the guise of a "protest"/
      Honestly, I don't really agree completely with that, in this instance, at least. We've allowed the government to incrementally increase taxing us on shit that doesn't make any sense. How do you fight it? We pay taxes on top of taxes, on top of taxes. Some aren't even called taxes, even though that is what they are, like fucking parking meters. It's bullshit. This country wastes more money than some countries entire GDP.

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      • #4
        I agree with you - I just think that harassing the shit out of someone just because they do a job is being a prick.

        What is it going to accomplish in the end? Is that meter maid going to go to the legislature floor and say "Dudes...we gotta cut this meter shit out...this guy has been yelling at me for weeks" Fuck no - someone is going to lose their shit and get into a fight - then Mr Freeman is going to go Westboro on the city and try and sue them for a ton of cash.

        You don't yell at the person behind the counter and expect to get taken seriously - but if you are looking to get paid all you have to do is put enough pressure in the right spot.

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        • #5
          They had 3 parking meter maids prior to the one guy quitting. I would question their necessity based on the $5 tickets and how ALL the biz owners felt about running meters to "have turnover for the business owners in the downtown area."

          Basically, do enough biz owners want the meters in the first place and do the tickets justify the salary/benefits of hiring 3 meter maids?
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          • #6
            Well, if they annoy enough of them into quitting and the city can't fill the positions because no one wants the job, I'd say that is accomplishing something.

            It's pretty obvious that an average American citizen can't get anything done when it comes to legislation, so what avenues are left to us to use? I think this country is starting to hit a tipping point where people are tired of 500 million laws telling them how to live and coercing them into giving more money to a machine that never stops running and only gets more thirsty.

            This isn't what the signers of the Declaration of Independence wanted for us, and themselves.

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            • #7
              It might make the meter maids quit...

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              • #8
                and then they outsource to a 3rd party for collections and raise the rate to cover expenses.

                just shoving the shit into another pile.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by talisman View Post
                  Honestly, I don't really agree completely with that, in this instance, at least. We've allowed the government to incrementally increase taxing us on shit that doesn't make any sense. How do you fight it? We pay taxes on top of taxes, on top of taxes. Some aren't even called taxes, even though that is what they are, like fucking parking meters. It's bullshit. This country wastes more money than some countries entire GDP.
                  The point of parking meters is not to generate revenue, the point is to keep people from hogging prime parking in busy areas. That's why you can't just feed a ton of money in at once (usually limited to a couple of hours). That's also why many meters only need to be fed during peak hours. In fact, my understanding is that they are not legal if they are installed to simply generate revenue.

                  Keep in mind, parking meters on public streets are different from parking lots in downtown areas that charge.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Binky View Post
                    and then they outsource to a 3rd party for collections and raise the rate to cover expenses.

                    just shoving the shit into another pile.
                    That is actually a likely scenario.

                    Originally posted by Chili View Post
                    The point of parking meters is not to generate revenue, the point is to keep people from hogging prime parking in busy areas. That's why you can't just feed a ton of money in at once (usually limited to a couple of hours). That's also why many meters only need to be fed during peak hours. In fact, my understanding is that they are not legal if they are installed to simply generate revenue.

                    Keep in mind, parking meters on public streets are different from parking lots in downtown areas that charge.
                    Of course it isn't. Tickets also aren't for generating revenue, according to those who write them. That's why it only costs you a couple hundred dollars these days if you're caught speeding.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by talisman View Post
                      Of course it isn't. Tickets also aren't for generating revenue, according to those who write them. That's why it only costs you a couple hundred dollars these days if you're caught speeding.
                      Lol..

                      "Intent" vs "use" will always cause some conflict. Both parking meters and tickets in general were designed for regulation and / or enforcement of those regulations. Just because certain municipalities or agencies choose to abuse them, that does not invalidate the need or usefulness of them for their intended purpose.

                      BTW.. I completely agree with Binky. Harassing the meter maids is shit. Feeding the meters for the violators is one thing, but the shit in the article is ridiculous. Civil disobedience is one thing, but harassment and personal attacks are totally different. The means are not justified by the end.

                      Oh, and BTW, some places specifically prohibit the act of feeding someone else's meter.. If the meters were just there for revenue, they shouldn't care who feeds them, or how long the vehicle stays there.

                      Likewise, the 62-year-old Cincinnati grandmother who made the news in 1996 was wrong to feed someone else’s meter to prevent the car from getting ticketed. She was arrested and fined for her good intentions, which were obstructing official business. See, for example, City of Schenectady Municipal Code Sec. 248-72, which says “It shall be unlawful for any person to deposit or cause to be deposited in a parking meter a coin for the purpose of increasing or extending the parking or standing time of any vehicle parked beyond the period herein prescribed.”
                      – orig. pub. in PrairieLaw.com (June 2000) A civil society requires more than well-crafted regulations; it requires proper enforcement. The humble parking meter can teach us a lot about desig…

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                      • #12
                        Sure they care. The ticket will generate more than the few quarters she put in.

                        Good call on arresting a 62 year old woman.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Craizie View Post
                          Sure they care. The ticket will generate more than the few quarters she put in.

                          Good call on arresting a 62 year old woman.

                          No shit. Parking is apparently some serious goddamn business.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by talisman View Post
                            No shit. Parking is apparently some serious goddamn business.
                            Not really, that's why the fine in the OP is $5. But if people run around all day feeding meters to prevent the original intent of the law from being enforced, an example needs to be made..

                            Not that I support the decision to arrest the woman in the example, mind you.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Binky View Post
                              I agree with you - I just think that harassing the shit out of someone just because they do a job is being a prick.

                              What is it going to accomplish in the end? Is that meter maid going to go to the legislature floor and say "Dudes...we gotta cut this meter shit out...this guy has been yelling at me for weeks" Fuck no - someone is going to lose their shit and get into a fight - then Mr Freeman is going to go Westboro on the city and try and sue them for a ton of cash.

                              You don't yell at the person behind the counter and expect to get taken seriously - but if you are looking to get paid all you have to do is put enough pressure in the right spot.
                              If I run out to my vehicle as the maid sees the meter is expired and I'm feeding money and I still get a ticket, is that someone 'just doing a job' or is that someone being a prick? Pretty sure if you are a resident there and paying taxes, you paid for that street they're ticketing you on, the sidewalks they're walking on, the vehicle, uniform, ticket machine and their salary to ticket you with.

                              You're essentially paying the city to ticket you on a street you paid for with people and vehicles you're still paying for and will if they stick it out and retire.
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