Frost's friend murders two deaf unarmed Iraqi boys

[03trubluGT]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/24/us-usa-iraq-killings-idUSBREA3N09C20140424

(Reuters) - The U.S. Army convened a pre-trial evidentiary hearing on Wednesday for a soldier accused of shooting dead two deaf, unarmed Iraqi boys in 2007.

Sergeant First Class Michael Barbera faces two counts of premeditated murder stemming from the incident.

The court proceeding, called an Article 32 hearing, is being held at Washington state's Joint Base Lewis-McChord and is expected to last five days, Army spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Dennis Swanson said.

The hearing marks the latest high-profile international murder case against a U.S. soldier to unfold at Lewis-McChord. Last June, U.S. Army Staff Sergeant Robert Bales pleaded guilty to killing 16 unarmed Afghan civilians in 2012. Two months earlier, U.S. Army Sergeant John Russell pleaded guilty to shooting dead five fellow U.S. servicemembers at a mental health clinic in Baghdad in 2009. Both men pleaded guilty in deals that spared them the death penalty.

Barbera's alleged attack gained notoriety after a Pittsburgh newspaper in 2012 published the accounts of fellow soldiers concerned over unwarranted killings by a soldier who escaped serious punishment after an initial Army investigation.

The incident occurred on March 6, 2007 in Iraq's Diyala province. Barbera was acting as team leader when from his squad's position in a palm grove he gunned down the brothers, aged 14 and 15, who were cattle herders, the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reported.

[Forever_frost]

Sorry, killing people in a war zone still isn't as bad as cops killing citizens. So let me break it down for you

Cops killing citizens > soldiers killing babies holding kittens by running them over with tanks smeared with the blood of virgins in a war zone where no one is protected by the constitution.

Also, how many cops wind up with multiple counts of premeditated murder stemming from their actions. Again, military handles ours harsher than police do, thank you for the point being made again.

[03trubluGT]

The point is people screw up. The Army has them, the Navy, Air Force, Marines, and police.

The service members take an oath too.

[Forever_frost]

The point is people screw up. The Army has them, the Navy, Air Force, Marines, and police.

The service members take an oath too.

The point is when we screw up, it tends to be overseas in a war zone where the people aren't protected by the constitution. When cops fuck up, it's in the US where people are protected by the constitution. We also, as you pointed out in the story, get hit hard for fuckups where you get paid vacation or desk duty or, if you fuck up VERY badly, you get fired and that's it.

[YALE]

The point is when we screw up, it tends to be overseas in a war zone where the people aren't protected by the constitution. When cops fuck up, it's in the US where people are protected by the constitution. We also, as you pointed out in the story, get hit hard for fuckups where you get paid vacation or desk duty or, if you fuck up VERY badly, you get fired and that's it.

So it's worse to kill people that are protected by the constitution than those not protected by it? You're a fucking sociopath, dude.

[BradM]

So it's worse to kill people that are protected by the constitution than those not protected by it? You're a fucking sociopath, dude.

Thanks for this reply, I couldn't figure out the right thing to say and you nailed it.

[broke again]

So it's worse to kill people that are protected by the constitution than those not protected by it? You're a fucking sociopath, dude.

x2, WTF.....

[SMKR]

The point is people screw up. The Army has them, the Navy, Air Force, Marines, and police.

The service members take an oath too.

You done any fishing lately Matt?

[dcs13]

x2, WTF.....

X3

[Ruffdaddy]

I agree with half of frosts point...the discipline part.

I know people screw up, but all I'm asking for is accountability on the cops end. I want them the face the punisent they should...that's it. In the military your ass gets handled if you do wrong.

[CexMashean]

So it's worse to kill people that are protected by the constitution than those not protected by it? You're a fucking sociopath, dude.

x4
A winner is you!

[Forever_frost]

So it's worse to kill people that are protected by the constitution than those not protected by it? You're a fucking sociopath, dude.

It's worse when your oath is to uphold and defend the constitution, yes. Not only are you a murdering douchebag, you're an oath breaker and thank you for the compliment. I prefer psychopath but I'm flexible.

[Whiteboy]

who cares the iraqy

[War Machine]

who cares the iraqy

exactly


FTP!!!!

[jammeejamm]

one place everyone is a suspect. the other everyone is innocent till proven guilty.

or is it the other way...

one is supposed to be trusted. and the other is an occupying force to the natives.

or is it the other way....