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  • #31
    Originally posted by BERNIE MOSFET View Post
    Are you suggesting that police should fear the legal system the rest of the population is subjected to?
    They'd never get anyone to volunteer to do the job then.
    I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
      They'd never get anyone to volunteer to do the job then.
      Sure they would. They'll buy into professional liability insurance.
      Men have become the tools of their tools.
      -Henry David Thoreau

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      • #33
        Originally posted by BERNIE MOSFET View Post
        Sure they would. They'll buy into professional liability insurance.
        Inb4claimthatnobodysebastodothat

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        • #34
          Originally posted by BERNIE MOSFET View Post
          Sure they would. They'll buy into professional liability insurance.
          Fear monger racist
          I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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          • #35
            I like the part about jumping on the hood of a fucking car because two little girls might have bought some beer. Overcompensating much?
            Originally posted by racrguy
            What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
            Originally posted by racrguy
            Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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            • #36
              The state of Virginia will spend $212,500 in taxpayer funds to settle a $40 million lawsuit filed by Elizabeth Daly, the University of Virginia student who spent a night and much of the next day in jail after seven cunningly plain-clothed agents from the Alcoholic Beverage Control division ambushed her for the crime of purchasing bottled water.

              Attorneys for Daly reached the settlement agreement with lawyers with the Virginia Attorney General late Wednesday, reports The Daily Progress.

              Daly’s attorneys filed her complaint in March. The 12 counts include constitutional rights violations and the use of excessive force. The defendants in the case are the state and the seven agents from the state’s Alcoholic Beverage Control agency.

              The incident happened last June, after Daly (then 20, now 21) and two of her friends purchased a sky-blue carton of LaCroix sparkling water, cookie dough and ice cream at a local supermarket.

              The seven agents sprung aggressively into action, suspecting that the student was carrying a 12-pack of beer. Police admitted that a high-strung agent vaulted onto the hood of Daly’s Chevrolet TrailBlazer. She contends that one of them also drew a gun. (RELATED: UVA Student Jailed For Possession Of Bottled Water, Ice Cream)

              Daly, along with two roommates who were in the car, did what reasonable, unarmed people usually do when violently pounced upon by seven people. They tried to get away.

              “They were showing unidentifiable badges after they approached us, but we became frightened, as they were not in anything close to a uniform,” Daly wrote in an account of the incident.

              “I couldn’t put my windows down unless I started my car, and when I started my car they began yelling to not move the car, not to start the car. They began trying to break the windows. My roommates and I were … terrified.”

              According to court records obtained by the Charlottesville paper, Daly “grazed” two agents with her vehicle. At this time, the records state, the unidentified passenger in the front seat of her SUV was yelling “go, go, go” and simultaneously diving into the back seat.

              Once the three students managed to make it out of the parking lot, they called 911. Daly testified that her goal was to drive immediately to a police station. However, she was stopped by a vehicle with identifiable sirens and lights.

              Daly had just left a “Take Back the Night” vigil on the famous University of Virginia campus, which was founded by the man who drafted the Declaration of Independence. She was eventually able to explain that she had purchased the water and junk food for a sorority benefit. She also apologized.

              The seven Alcoholic Beverage Control agents were not satisfied, though. Daly was charged Daly with three felonies. After a public outcry and embarrassing national ridicule, all charges were dropped and Daly’s record was completely expunged.

              The civil lawsuit against the state and its overzealous alcohol control agents followed.

              “My goal throughout this case has been to reach a resolution that is just and fair for all parties, including Ms. Daly, the ABC and its agents, and the Commonwealth and its taxpayers,” said Attorney General Mark Herring in a statement obtained by The Daily Progress. “After careful consideration of the potentially significant costs of taking this case to trial, I believe we have reached such an outcome.”

              Daly’s lawyers initially offered $1.5 million in the settlement talks. The attorney general’s side countered with $100,000.

              In the 47-page civil suit, Daly’s attorneys claimed that the alcohol control agents who have now cost taxpayers $212,500 mocked Daly at least a month after the incident and made her “sound dumb and silly for being confused.”


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              • #37
                Originally posted by John -- '02 HAWK View Post
                Maybe accountability at the departmental office level, but at the individual level its pretty ridiculous to personally fine/charge the idiot, that jumped on the hood, 5 million dollars (40 mil / 8 parties ) or even 1 million. It would disable the effectiveness of all police officers even the good ones.
                This is what we have in place now, virtually no personal responsibility beyond their paycheck and writing a few reports. Seems to be working well!
                Originally posted by racrguy
                What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
                Originally posted by racrguy
                Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
                  This is what we have in place now, virtually no personal responsibility beyond their paycheck and writing a few reports. Seems to be working well!
                  Your right it is working well. The amount of incidents is quite rare and fairly isolated when looked at from city/county perspective. It only becomes an issue when all of incidents are grouped together while disregarding time and geographical restrictions. Humans make mistakes, Some make even greater mistakes when put into positions of power and trust. But putting every one of those people open to predatory lawsuits would result in a clogged legal system and government personal that literally does nothing for the fear of another law suit.

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                  • #39
                    Could she also go after and individually sue each of the agents? I wouldn't stop until I could ruin their careers or at least their quality of life for a while.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Frank View Post
                      Could she also go after and individually sue each of the agents? I wouldn't stop until I could ruin their careers or at least their quality of life for a while.
                      If this was about doing the right thing and trying to effect a change, yes she could. But this is about money and so they go where the money is.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Jewrrick View Post
                        If this was about doing the right thing and trying to effect a change, yes she could. But this is about money and so they go where the money is.

                        Same could be said about a considerable amount of law enforcement.

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                        • #42
                          I wouldnt have settled for that. I would have taken them much much further.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by John -- '02 HAWK View Post
                            Your right it is working well. The amount of incidents is quite rare and fairly isolated when looked at from city/county perspective. It only becomes an issue when all of incidents are grouped together while disregarding time and geographical restrictions. Humans make mistakes, Some make even greater mistakes when put into positions of power and trust. But putting every one of those people open to predatory lawsuits would result in a clogged legal system and government personal that literally does nothing for the fear of another law suit.
                            You don't know how commonplace the incidents are because cops are liars just like the general population. The correlation of the increase in these incidents to the number of people with recording equipment is pretty telling.
                            Originally posted by racrguy
                            What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
                            Originally posted by racrguy
                            Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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