Police Officers Warned About Civilian Camera Encounters

[houstondallas]

Tails, the thing I wanna know the most is how the hell you get 55,000 posts on this board!?!?! I mean holy shit. Do you live on this board? No disrespect but man there's a whole world out there.

I would think someone as invested in this forum wouldn't want it clogged with a buncha stories about the same garbage from places that aren't relevant to cars or even this area

[dcs13]

Yes that Baylor story is REALLY crazy. That dude was a serious problem. And a whole lotta people covered his ass.
I think the JAMA article is fair on their numbers. It's no wonder you can't film the birth of your child now...Don't need no evidence do they ??
I'll tell you, a hospital in Plano damn near killed my mom. They had her so doped up or morphine when she fell and broke her arm. She's been in the hospital for 8 weeks now. They had her so doped up, she was bed ridden and needed to learn to walk again.. we had to forcibly move her.
Yes, plenty of bad cops to watch...But perspective of other issues helps to bring a better balance in the focus.

[talisman]

Tails, the thing I wanna know the most is how the hell you get 55,000 posts on this board!?!?! I mean holy shit. Do you live on this board? No disrespect but man there's a whole world out there.

I would think someone as invested in this forum wouldn't want it clogged with a buncha stories about the same garbage from places that aren't relevant to cars or even this area

13 posts a day, that's how. There's a whole world out there? You don't say?

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[YALE]

Avi Adelman is a festering anal fissure.

[cyclonescott]

Show me a profession that doesn't have some issues. And No, i'm not downplaying the seriousness of the power they can wield.. I will point out though that doctors kill WAY MORE people by accident every year than cops kill justifiably over multiple years. Estimates show that Hospitals kill about 195 THOUSAND people a year due to medical errors. Looks like cops offed about 309 people last year TOTAL...

And there were only 33 police shot last year in the line of duty. What that 309 number doesn’t account for is the number of people who got the shit beat out of them by the police, the number of people whose houses were busted into because the police made a clerical error on a no knock raid and don’t forget the number of dog’s shot because they didn’t like the way it barked at them.

[Sgt Beavis]

If they aren't doing anything wrong, they don't have anything to worry about

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[kingjason]

See, if those body cameras and car cameras actually were always on and uploaded instantly so that the PD and cops couldn't delete the information on them or 'forget' to turn them on, this wouldn't be necessary. Why should citizens be respectful to record cops when they usually aren't when they are recording a citizen? There are good cops but I have yet to see one say "Hey, if this recording you thing is bothering you, I'll turn it off and if me running behind you for 10 miles on your bumper is distracting, I'm sorry, I was running your plates."

Are cops who are assholes wanting their 15 minutes of fame? And there is a reason cops don't like cameras that they can't control. I can think of a few this past week where cops shot innocents, and a few more where citizens are shot in the back and the recordings are 'lost."

June we get body cams that record us 24/7 and only delete after like 30 days. So your argument is out on that. My department says it is a violation of policy to just turn my camera off at will. Plus I would think this would be something you would frown upon. I have never lost a video of any sorts.

I will keep in mind their are no good cops when I receive my life saving medal next week. The one I will stack on top of my other 16 or so commendations with zero internal affairs investigations over misconduct. Only internal I was ever a part of was a deadly force incident. I ended up with a medal of valor out of that one. Just like all the fucked up soldiers that are out there killing random people and throwing puppies off of cliffs, their are always percentages. You can not ever predict how someone is going to turn out on the streets. Every profession has fuck ups, however I choose not to associate with them in my profession.

[Forever_frost]

Frost is a total cop hater. I wish there was a block feature on here to ignore all his posts. It becomes very annoying and very 1 sided. For every 1 bad cop story, there are thousands doing what they are legally supposed to do, but none of those ever get posted. He just likes to cry foul all the time and searches the internet all day for stories from random ass towns across USA where JimBob deputy did something stupid. Waste of posts.

I hate to tell you kiddo, there is a block feature and if you see my name posting, you pretty much know what you're going to get but you have a crush on me. I respect that, I really do because I'm awesome but dammit, no more telling me you had your tonsils removed.

[Forever_frost]

140,000 cops in USA....all under constant microscope and in media for any mistake. There will always be stories out there.

Frost did something stupid at one point, got popped and arrested and now is a cop hater. He wont admit it but its true. People dont devote as much time as he does to hating a certain group without a bad experience at some point.

How much do you want to put up for your theory? I'm willing to have my background run to check if you're going to put up some cash. If I have one arrest in this country, I'll hand you $100. Ball is in your court sport

[Forever_frost]

Show me a profession that doesn't have some issues. And No, i'm not downplaying the seriousness of the power they can wield.. I will point out though that doctors kill WAY MORE people by accident every year than cops kill justifiably over multiple years. Estimates show that Hospitals kill about 195 THOUSAND people a year due to medical errors. Looks like cops offed about 309 people last year TOTAL...

Can a doctor approach you on the street and, by his word alone, take away your liberty or kill you? Can a doctor enter your home without reason and kill your pets and your family and get a paid vacation until the heat dies down and then go about his way?

[kingjason]

And there were only 33 police shot last year in the line of duty. What that 309 number doesn’t account for is the number of people who got the shit beat out of them by the police, the number of people whose houses were busted into because the police made a clerical error on a no knock raid and don’t forget the number of dog’s shot because they didn’t like the way it barked at them.

Go ahead and ask me how many people I have tazed or pepper sprayed in my career. Also ask me how many dogs I have shot or how many people in the line of duty I have ever took a swing at. Also you should know I worked in one of the highest crime cities in the Dallas area for 11 years.

[Forever_frost]

June we get body cams that record us 24/7 and only delete after like 30 days. So your argument is out on that. My department says it is a violation of policy to just turn my camera off at will. Plus I would think this would be something you would frown upon. I have never lost a video of any sorts.

I will keep in mind their are no good cops when I receive my life saving medal next week. The one I will stack on top of my other 16 or so commendations with zero internal affairs investigations over misconduct. Only internal I was ever a part of was a deadly force incident. I ended up with a medal of valor out of that one. Just like all the fucked up soldiers that are out there killing random people and throwing puppies off of cliffs, their are always percentages. You can not ever predict how someone is going to turn out on the streets. Every profession has fuck ups, however I choose not to associate with them in my profession.

Not once have I said there are no good cops. There are. Absolutes when dealing with human nature do not apply. You say it's a violation to turn your camera off 'at will.' What about if it has a failure? Are you immediately notified? Are they? Do you immediately go get another? What happens when you see a cop gun down someone unarmed? Do you disarm them and arrest them? The incident posted up of the cop 'accidentally' shooting someone in the back while they're on the ground, what is your response to that? I know if I accidentally shoot someone on the ground my ass is toast. Do you disarm and cuff that officer?

What happens when your officers enter the wrong house and cause property damage and kill a pet? Does the officer get handed a bill and jail time? Do you arrest him? I know what happens if I kick open a door and start opening fire. Tell me cops stop other cops from these actions when they happen. Tell me there's no cops deleting their videos and mic data and no PD's helping to avoid lawsuits. Tell me police do not protect each other when things don't look too favorable when a weapon is drawn.

Before it's said, yes this stuff happens with soldiers. Unlike cops, we are usually deployed to a war zone when this happens and the people we deal with aren't protected under the constitution. We are also massively punished for our fuckups. Hell, you have one Marine urinate on an insurgent who was trying to kill him a few moments before and the President calls for your head. Who watches the watchers?

[cyclonescott]

June we get body cams that record us 24/7 and only delete after like 30 days. So your argument is out on that. My department says it is a violation of policy to just turn my camera off at will. Plus I would think this would be something you would frown upon. I have never lost a video of any sorts.

I will keep in mind their are no good cops when I receive my life saving medal next week. The one I will stack on top of my other 16 or so commendations with zero internal affairs investigations over misconduct. Only internal I was ever a part of was a deadly force incident. I ended up with a medal of valor out of that one. Just like all the fucked up soldiers that are out there killing random people and throwing puppies off of cliffs, their are always percentages. You can not ever predict how someone is going to turn out on the streets. Every profession has fuck ups, however I choose not to associate with them in my profession.

I commend you on your accomplishments. I just wish there were more like you.

[Forever_frost]

Go ahead and ask me how many people I have tazed or pepper sprayed in my career. Also ask me how many dogs I have shot or how many people in the line of duty I have ever took a swing at. Also you should know I worked in one of the highest crime cities in the Dallas area for 11 years.

Did you ever play high school football and threaten to take someone to the gym for disagreeing with you? I have heard that happens.

[Forever_frost]

I commend you on your accomplishments. I just wish there were more like you.

Yep, me too. He catches a lot of hell but is, from what I gather, a good guy. You really don't see him defending bad cops and is a straight shooter. I have no issues.