Police Officers Warned About Civilian Camera Encounters

[Broncojohnny]

Yes, when a 'rogue' cop opens fire on an unarmed citizen, their partner doesn't slam them to the ground and cuff them right there. Best case scenario a conflicting report is made, worst case, they help the cover up.

I'll always remember the video of the face down handcuffed guy who was shot in the back in the San Fran area. All of his buddies saw him do it plain as day and what did they do? Just act like nothing happened. That tells you all you need to know about the old "thin blue line".

[talisman]

I'll always remember the video of the face down handcuffed guy who was shot in the back in the San Fran area. All of his buddies saw him do it plain as day and what did they do? Just act like nothing happened. That tells you all you need to know about the old "thin blue line".

This is the worst one I've ever seen for WTF factor. This is why women should stay in the kitchen. Edit: not graphic, I thought she killed him.

[cyclonescott]

Frost are you related to the OP? Holy shit all he posts is FTP threads.

Now back to the cameras. I could care less if I am video taped. Hell I have a body mic and camera on for any calls for service anyways. Now if some random motherfucker were to just follow me around all day and invade my space that would be annoying. It would be no different then some random stranger following you all day at work and then in public. Videoing the cops can turn into interfering with the investigation, or officer safety issues. Keep your distance, be respectful, and I see absolutely no issues with it. The problem you have now days is that some people are just trying to be assholes. They want confrontation so they can get their fifteen minutes of fame. Also there is a reason some things should not be photographed and just thrown out there on the web. Really, would you like your dead wife's picture, from a accident, posted on someone's blog?

First off, if you were paying attention you would know that Frost and I don’t get along very well together. Second, as has been said, if there wasn’t a repeated pattern of lost video that shows police in a bad light from their own cameras there wouldn’t need to be citizens following them around watching them. Of course the police wouldn’t intentionally turn off their cameras or destroy the film. They would never harass a person just walking down the street that isn’t breaking any laws. They wouldn’t be used by city councils and school boards as their private enforcers to arrest and assault someone who his expressing their 1st amendment rights. They would never lie and make up stuff in a police report to get someone charged with a crime.
The militarization of the police isn’t about their safety; it is about trying to intimidate the public. Not all, but some on the police force are more than happy to trample on the rights of the public. Maybe you should start holding your brothers in blue more accountable so the people don’t have to.

[houstondallas]

Frost are you related to the OP? Holy shit all he posts is FTP threads.

Frost is a total cop hater. I wish there was a block feature on here to ignore all his posts. It becomes very annoying and very 1 sided. For every 1 bad cop story, there are thousands doing what they are legally supposed to do, but none of those ever get posted. He just likes to cry foul all the time and searches the internet all day for stories from random ass towns across USA where JimBob deputy did something stupid. Waste of posts.

[Trip McNeely]

Frost is a total cop hater. I wish there was a block feature on here to ignore all his posts. It becomes very annoying and very 1 sided. For every 1 bad cop story, there are thousands doing what they are legally supposed to do, but none of those ever get posted. He just likes to cry foul all the time and searches the internet all day for stories from random ass towns across USA where JimBob deputy did something stupid. Waste of posts.

Well FWIW he isn't short on material.

[houstondallas]

Well FWIW he isn't short on material.

140,000 cops in USA....all under constant microscope and in media for any mistake. There will always be stories out there.

Frost did something stupid at one point, got popped and arrested and now is a cop hater. He wont admit it but its true. People dont devote as much time as he does to hating a certain group without a bad experience at some point.

[talisman]

Frost is a total cop hater. I wish there was a block feature on here to ignore all his posts. It becomes very annoying and very 1 sided. For every 1 bad cop story, there are thousands doing what they are legally supposed to do, but none of those ever get posted. He just likes to cry foul all the time and searches the internet all day for stories from random ass towns across USA where JimBob deputy did something stupid. Waste of posts.

First off, there is an ignore feature. Second off, pretty much any time I jump over to any news site, I have about 3 articles to chose from on any given day of the police committing some outrageous atrocity against a citizen. If you don't like hearing about it all the time, either stick your head back in the sand or purge the offenders from your ranks. Doing your job isn't anything to get excited about. You get paid for it. You volunteered for it. Stop whining.

[dcs13]

Well FWIW he isn't short on material.

Show me a profession that doesn't have some issues. And No, i'm not downplaying the seriousness of the power they can wield.. I will point out though that doctors kill WAY MORE people by accident every year than cops kill justifiably over multiple years. Estimates show that Hospitals kill about 195 THOUSAND people a year due to medical errors. Looks like cops offed about 309 people last year TOTAL...

[talisman]

Show me a profession that doesn't have some issues. And No, i'm not downplaying the seriousness of the power they can wield.. I will point out though that doctors kill WAY MORE people by accident every year than cops kill justifiably over multiple years.

Show me a doctor that signs up on an internet forum and starts defending other doctors shoddy work. And we've been down this road on here before, that statement is not factual.

[Trip McNeely]

Show me a profession that doesn't have some issues. And No, i'm not downplaying the seriousness of the power they can wield.. I will point out though that doctors kill WAY MORE people by accident every year than cops kill justifiably over multiple years.

I'm just pointing out that there's always a few stories in any news outlet every day about someone in law enforcement whether it be at the local, state, fed. level doing something stupid. And that's just what is reported.

[houstondallas]

Show me a doctor that signs up on an internet forum and starts defending other doctors shoddy work. And we've been down this road on here before, that statement is not factual.

No one is defending any police misconduct. Just this isnt a forum for that. Its all thats been posted lately and is annoying. Yes Im partial to it, but nevertheless its clogging up the board.


And no one is whining about anything. Just posting my opinion. Relax.

[talisman]

Estimates show that Hospitals kill about 195 THOUSAND people a year due to medical errors.

You ninja edited. Wait wait wait. Link for this dubious estimate?

[dcs13]

Show me a doctor that signs up on an internet forum and starts defending other doctors shoddy work. And we've been down this road on here before, that statement is not factual.

If you think the thin blue line is something, read this story:

http://www.wfaa.com/news/investigates/Lawsuits-allege-Baylor-Plano-allowed-dangerous-doctor-to-operate-244771261.html

How many healthcare professionals could have stopped this guy and didn't ? And he's STILL bragging that he's a good doctor...

I love Baylor. All my doctors are there. will go there til I die. But they covered for his butt. That's just a local story.

Yes, there's cops that eff up everyday. But they don't kill 534 people EVERYDAY by accident.

[dcs13]

You ninja edited. Wait wait wait. Link for this dubious estimate?

Medical News Today

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/11856.php

Journal of American Medical Association:
The JOURNAL of the AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION (JAMA) Vol 284, No 4, July 26th 2000 article written by Dr Barbara Starfield, MD, MPH, of the Johns Hopkins School of Hygiene and Public Health, shows that medical errors may be the third leading cause of death in the United States.

The report apparently shows there are 2,000 deaths/year from unnecessary surgery; 7000 deaths/year from medication errors in hospitals; 20,000 deaths/year from other errors in hospitals; 80,000 deaths/year from infections in hospitals; 106,000 deaths/year from non-error, adverse effects of medications - these total up to 225,000 deaths per year in the US from iatrogenic causes which ranks these deaths as the # 3 killer. Iatrogenic is a term used when a patient dies as a direct result of treatments by a physician, whether it is from misdiagnosis of the ailment or from adverse drug reactions used to treat the illness. (drug reactions are the most common cause).

[talisman]

If you think the thin blue line is something, read this story:

http://www.wfaa.com/news/investigates/Lawsuits-allege-Baylor-Plano-allowed-dangerous-doctor-to-operate-244771261.html

How many healthcare professionals could have stopped this guy and didn't ? And he's STILL bragging that he's a good doctor...

I love Baylor. All my doctors are there. will go there til I die. But they covered for his butt. That's just a local story.

Yes, there's cops that eff up everyday. But they don't kill 534 people EVERYDAY by accident.

Pretty crazy article, this caught my eye. His roommate SAW him doing drugs the night before, and still let him operate on him the next day?! WTF?

"But no one stopped him from operating on his own roommate and best friend Jerry Summers, who could walk the day before the operation at Baylor.
The day after his surgery, he was a quadriplegic.
"It was supposed to be a pretty common surgery, and I was supposed to walk in one day and walk out the next," Summers said.
According to Fennell's suit, Summers admitted to nursing staff that he had witnessed Duntsch using drugs the night before surgery. The lawsuit alleges an attorney representing Summers called Baylor Plano and "reported the allegations concerning Dr. Duntsch's drug use."


I'd like to see that 190k number estimate article though. Edit, never mind, you posted it above this post.