EFFF Red light cameras

[talisman]

Sidenote: I tried every out I could think of; going to a grocery store, online, etc. No dice.

[matts5.0]

Tarrant county doesn't play that bullshit.

[BP]

Tarrant county doesn't play that bullshit.

Actually they do, you won't be able to renew online or at a grocery store and depending on who you get at the tax office they may not do it either. I paid the $100 a few weeks ago because I was tired of jacking with it. Officially they are only enforcing scofflaws on tolls but again it depends on who you get and eventually it'll be policy.

That is the only way out of it as long as you still own the vehicle and reside at the address on the registration. Now you could move to a county that doesn't have them and get your tags there. If you are selling or trading the car ignore them, they can't do anything. Or if you live in outside of Harris, Tarrant, Dallas or Travis county you can probably ignore them as well.

[talisman]

Tarrant county doesn't play that bullshit.

I live in Arlington.

[Chuck_Finley]

Actually they do, you won't be able to renew online or at a grocery store and depending on who you get at the tax office they may not do it either. I paid the $100 a few weeks ago because I was tired of jacking with it. Officially they are only enforcing scofflaws on tolls but again it depends on who you get and eventually it'll be policy.

That is the only way out of it as long as you still own the vehicle and reside at the address on the registration. Now you could move to a county that doesn't have them and get your tags there. If you are selling or trading the car ignore them, they can't do anything. Or if you live in outside of Harris, Tarrant, Dallas or Travis county you can probably ignore them as well.

If they give you crap, ask to speak to their supervisor because Tarrant will renew the registration but I believe you're correct about the toll portions.

[Roscoe]

Goddamn jackboots!

[95DRGT]

Contest it and ask for a review- I got one in Fort Worth similar to your situation. Went down to city department that handles it, reviewed the tape with a supervisor and he dismissed it. He stated they are not perfect but most people never contest it.

[racrguy]

I'd give a lawyer double what the fine is before I give the state any money, and I don't much care for lawyers much either.

[matts5.0]

I'll just buy a new truck every two years. Fuck red light cameras.

[CJ]

I will not pay these, I refuse to. We must starve these robots of tyranny to death.

[Mach1]

This should fix those red light cameras right up

[Forever_frost]

http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/smart-citizen-sticks-man-fighting-traffic-ticket/

Smart Citizen Sticks it to The Man by Fighting his Traffic Ticket
Posted by Faith Braverman • 05 Feb 2014

WASHINGTON, D.C.–Nate Cox received a notification in his mail last year that would intimidate most U.S. citizens. According to the Washington D.C. DMV, Cox’s car was caught speeding on camera. The Photo-Enforced Speeding ticket captures Cox’s car, complete with its abundant libertarian bumper stickers and “ENDW4R” license plate.

The DMV clearly didn’t know who they were dealing with.

“I am in the habit of not taking ‘plea deals’, and I am always in the habit of fighting my tickets and NOT pre-paying them so I don’t have to go to court – like many folks do,” Cox said in his post on VirginiaCopBlock.org.


“[T]hese criminals issuing these tickets are hoping that the people will just get scared and pay, or not want to waste their time with it. However the government has to provide evidence that it was actually ME driving, it’s their burden of proof. Just because they got pictures of my car doesn’t mean I was driving. So, in response to the first letter, I mailed them back the following letter:

To Whom it May Concern,

I received a letter claiming I committed a violation of a speeding law in the District of Columbia on 04/21/2012. As per the instructions, I am writing to plead ‘not guilty’ to this charge. Although this option is said to result in this matter going to court; it is my suggestion that the charges simply be dropped. This suggestion comes out of respect for tax payers, and my request that their hard-earned money not be wasted in such proceedings. As there is no evidence of my involvement with this alleged ‘crime’, as well as the fact that I am not granted my 6th amendment right to face my ‘accuser’ (a camera); I see no way the government could prove my guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. I also see find no legal requirement for me to implicate someone else in this process, as it is the government’s responsibility to prove a person’s guilt. It is also my 5th amendment right to remain silent on the matter.

If it is the government’s decision to move forward in this matter, I would request copies of any evidence the prosecution may have of my involvement in the “offense”; as well as, all maintenance records for the camera(s) involved.

Sincerely,

Nathan Cox
United States Army Veteran

After sending that letter, Cox received this dubious post card:

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Finally, over six months later, Cox was informed that his ticket had been completely dismissed for “the government’s failure to meet its burden of proof”. He was understandably thrilled that he’d won his fight against his ticket, and encourages others to do the same, saying, “If there is NO VICTIM, there is NO CRIME!”

[BP]

I'd give a lawyer double what the fine is before I give the state any money, and I don't much care for lawyers much either.

The money is split between the city and whoever admins the cameras. These aren't tickets, they are no different than me writing up a letter and saying you are a prick and you owe me $100 for being so. The difference is that cities are on board and have convinced the state to put a notice on registration renewals. The states and counties aren't making money off the civil penalties but it's really the only means of enforcement. Besides putting a negative on your credit report, which will get wiped off as soon as you protest it.

[CJ]

This should fix those red light cameras right up

[TeeShock]

Rustoleum Gang, unite.