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I'm sure it will turn up sooner than later...RIP to everyone on board.Originally posted by Da PrezOriginally posted by VETTKLR
Cliff Notes: I can beat the fuck out of a ZR1
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is anyone else completely enthralled with this story and wanting more info? it seems like there is no new info coming out, or at least being released. thats a pretty big plane to just "disappear"
god bless.It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men -Frederick DouglassComment
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It is just something for Big News to shove down our throats so we don't look harder at something else.Originally posted by ELVIS View PostComment
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Actually according to the British media at least one of the stolen passports was used by an Iranian and the other person has a similar appearance. That and several people have reported seeing passenger's cell phones on line and being able to call them but of course never speaking to anyone.Originally posted by ELVIS View Post
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It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men -Frederick DouglassComment
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I heard discussion that if they turned off the transponders, they could have crashed in the jungles of Viet Nam. And apparently in some areas of that jungle we're still finding stuff from the war that no one has found yet.
I just keep thinking of the space shuttle. That thing came apart on depressurization at a high altitude and we found most of that thing. Granted, the ocean makes it harder, but a lot of that stuff would float.Comment
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The debris field showed up on radar as it went down, that and there were hundreds if not thousands of cameras on it.Originally posted by dcs13 View PostComment
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Distraction from the fact that our administration turned their back on an agreement to help Ukraine remain whole and without threat from Russian forces perhaps. Hiding that and the fact that the Russian Federation is growing and becoming stronger allies with China would be good for our government.Originally posted by ELVIS View PostComment
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Media outlets are hoping this is a terrorist attack so fear can be instilled. Terrorist cells all over the world which had no affiliation with this are laughing hysterically.Comment
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Turning off a transponder might make them go "dark" on an ATC screen but military radar would still see it, right?Originally posted by dcs13 View Post
MISSING MH370: Four sightings reported to police
KOTA BARU: Police have received four reports from individuals in the state claiming to see an aeroplane flying low near their areas at the time Malaysian Airline flight MH370 went missing early Saturday.
State police chief Datuk Jalaluddin Abdul Rahman said a bus driver also made a police statement that he had seen an aeroplane at the Penarik, Setiu junction in Terengganu.
He said two of the reports were filed in Tumpat and two here.
"One of the reports was filed on Sunday and three on Monday. We believed that these men were sincere in making the reports and wanted to assist the authorities," he said in a press conference this evening
"This is also supported with police reports made by some east coast residents, who claimed that they have seen huge lights and a plane flying at some 1000 metres above sea level off Kota Baru."
Air Force states the plane went West not East.
Military Tracked Malaysia Airlines Jet to Strait of Malacca
http://www.frequentbusinesstraveler....it-of-malacca/On Mar 11th 2014 Malaysia's Air Force reported their primary radar data suggest, the aircraft may have turned west over the Gulf of Thailand at about 1000 meters/3000 feet below the original flight level and flown past the east coast near Khota Baru and the west coast of Malaysia near Kedah, the radar return was last seen at 02:40L near Pulau Perak in the Straits of Malacca, about 285nm westsouthwest of the last known (secondary) radar position.
Here are some other theories I've read:
... this Indonesian map indicates to me that the Boeing 777 and crew made a purposeful departure from planned course (west). The lack of communication points toward nefarious action by the crew. My money is on that, and not hijacking or mechanical failure.
I do like the idea of the crew-station being hit by a meteor - although remote, it's statistically bound to happen someday
ETA: Unless I'm seeing things, this map is fucked up.
Look at the trajectory the Indonesian SAR dude's greasy finger is on. It shows the path of departure about ~100 miles west of Kuala Lumpur
20 passengers (12 Malaysians & 8 Chinese) were Austin, TX based Freescale Semiconductor employees. FSL has a team of specialists supporting US DOD RF power needs. Maybe "you kill out nuclear researchers, we kill your Electronics Warfare guys"?
On another note, Interpol is hinting that the stolen passports were not terrorism related, and that the Iranian dudes were using the passports to get to Europe in order to seek asylum.
If you're not familiar with Korean Air 007 go read up on it. It was a 747 shot down by a Russian fighter in the early 80s. It went down in the Pacific and finding any wreckage was a MASSIVE clusterfuck.
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Malaysia
deployed 18 aircraft and 27 ships, including the submarine support vessel MV Mega Bakti which is able to detect objects in water at depths of up to 1,000m.
China
frigate Mianyang was diverted from the Nansha Sea to the south-east of Vietnam. It was joined by the landing craft Jinggangshan and its support vessels.
Destroyer Haikou and amphibious landing ship Kunlunshan set off on Sunday from two southern Chinese ports with a 50-strong marine corps as well as assault boats and rubber dinghies aboard
Vietnam
dispatched a total of eight ships and seven aircraft and is expected to send more.
set up command posts at Phu Quoc island - the closest port to the plane's last known location - and Ca Mau airport on the country's southern tip.
US
deployed the USS Pinckney and Kidd from the Seventh Fleet, which had been on training and security operations in the South China Sea.
US P-3C Orion aircraft, normally based in Okinawa, Japan is also on the scene
Australia and New Zealand
three P-3C Orion aircraft
Singapore
two warships, a submarine support and rescue vessel, a Sikorsky naval helicopter and a C-130 aircraft.
Thailand
dispatched a Super Lynx helicopter and a patrol ship to the Andaman Sea,
Indonesia
dispatched a corvette, four rapid patrol vessels and a maritime surveillance plane
Phillipines
dispatched a Fokker F-27 and an Islander plane and two patrol ships
placed on alert a Hamilton-class cutter vessel and a C-130 plane to join in the mission, if needed.Comment
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"If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry FordComment
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Plane Lost, Uncertainties Regained
by Adam Frank
March 10, 2014 5:57 PM
We are rarely lost anymore.
In a foreign city or just a drive out of town, our GPS-enabled smartphones pin our positions on digital maps to within a few meters. We are rarely without facts anymore. Any question that has an objective answer — from the last day of the Civil War to the maximum speed of a Boeing 777 — is as close as Google. For a broad class of experience in modern life we have become very used to "knowing." Events a world away may be subject to our opinions but rarely anymore are they cloaked in an enveloping darkness.
How then can Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing disappear in good weather over shallow, heavily trafficked seas?
The human tragedy of the flight will be written in the stories of loved ones left behind, their lives suddenly and forever shattered. But from half-a-planet away the mystery of an advanced jetliner vanishing in the midst of multiple, overlapping advanced technologies raises an additional and unsettling question for us moderns.
Do we understand uncertainty anymore?
There was a time — most of our time on this planet to be exact — when the sails of a ship sank with finality below the horizon as it headed off on its journey. Those left behind were left with uncertainty. They could pace the harbor walls or just get on with their lives but the ship was gone and there would be no news until ... there was. For almost ALL of the 2,000 generations stretching from back into the last ice age, human beings have lived through deep existential uncertainty about the world around them. Tomorrow's weather might be intuited from experience but not glimpsed via satellite images. Loved ones away on travels were for the most part entirely absent. Without text or Facebook updates, their current status remained the stuff of the imagination.
Is it the genetic memory of that unknowing that makes us so unsettled when search teams seem to chase ghosts? Debris spotted from the air turns out to be nothing more than . What was thought to be the downed plane's oil spill is determined to contain no jet fuel.
Twenty years ago information about flight MH370 would've been firmly the domain of experts. Today anyone can find the current status of the skies via services like .
Eventually we all expect that the mystery of MH370 will be a mystery no more. But whatever its resolution, what do these days of waiting reveal to us now about the world we are building?
We are, of course, still surrounded by uncertainty like the terrible wait for a prognosis or the horror of watching a nation spin into civil war. But in creating our network of protective technological miracles have we inadvertently inoculated ourselves from a reality that lies too close for us to want to face? Have we limited our capacity to deal with a darkness that, in truth, will always surround us?Comment
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