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  • Frisco bans vaping in public places.

    Oh dear, I hope the hipsters don't go hang themselves from their purple scarves. You're welcome for this potential snakes nest, bitches:


    Electronic cigarettes look like cigarettes. They supply nicotine like cigarettes. Users exhale a puffy cloud like cigarettes. So they must be cigarettes, right?
    According to the Frisco City Council, yes. On Tuesday night, its members voted unanimously to ban the use of e-cigarettes wherever traditional cigarettes are banned -- i.e. in most public places.

    "I gotta say, I'm just not compelled to view e-cigarettes any different than I do regular cigarettes," said Councilman Bob Allen. "I don't believe I can get to that point."

    The vote makes Frisco the first city in North Texas to take that step and perhaps the second, after Lufkin, in the entire state, according to The Dallas Morning News. Flower Mound recently banned the use of e-cigs on town-owned property.

    In the words of the ordinance, the City Council found that "the smoking of electronic cigarettes and/or e-cigarettes and liquid nicotine have been demonstrated to have a detrimental effect on others in close proximity to the smoker."

    But, as several council members acknowledged during last night's meeting, that research on the subject is inconclusive.

    In 2009, the Food and Drug Administration analyzed e-cigarettes from two leading brands and detected diethylene glycol, a chemical used to make antifreeze that is toxic to humans, and known carcinogens like nitrosamines, but the study was small and presence of the concentration of the chemicals was low.

    And that's more of a concern to the person vaping than to people around them. A recent Drexel University study concluded that second-hand vapor is not a health concern. Same with a 2012 Clarkson University report.

    Tim Nelson was the lone Frisco council member to voice opposition to the e-cigarette ban. He described the experience of sitting next to someone vaping as akin to sitting next to someone popping gum or dipping chew tobacco -- mildly irritating but harmless.

    "Until there's something more conclusive I'll lean on the side of letting people do what they want to do," he said.

    To his colleagues, however, the vague possibility that second-hand vapor might some day be found to be harmful was enough to justify a ban. Plus, vaping is annoying.

    "This is always a delicate subject when you're discussing the rights of one versus the rights of many," said Councilman Jeff Cheney. "Yes there's the right of one to be able to smoke an e-cigarette but there's the rights of those other patrons to not sit next to it either and or my kids to not sit next to it."

    Electronic cigarettes look like cigarettes. They supply nicotine like cigarettes. Users exhale a puffy cloud like cigarettes. So they must be cigarettes, right? According to the Frisco City Council, yes. On Tuesday night, its members voted unanimously to ban the use of e-cigarettes wherever traditional cigarettes are banned -- i.e...

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    Hooray justice.
    Originally posted by Broncojohnny
    HOORAY ME and FUCK YOU!

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    • #3
      This shit is getting out of hand. Just up the street from my house, two vape shops have opened in the same strip center.

      Also I was standing in line at 7-11 the other day when it was 80 or so out and this sickly looking hipster in front of me was wearing a wool cap for some reason. Rather than wait for 30 seconds to do that shit outside he took a drag on a dildo sized vape contraption and blew it all towards the clerk. Fucking douchers.
      Originally posted by lincolnboy
      After watching Games of Thrones, makes me glad i was not born in those years.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Nash B. View Post
        Hooray justice.
        Right? What would we do without local government? They can now attack vapers and sign holders equally.

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        • #5
          not this shit again.

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          • #6
            good. what we need is moar govt.

            god bless.
            It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men -Frederick Douglass

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            • #7
              I like Tim Nelson's response.

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              • #8
                I do tend to agree that this is intrusive. If they wanted the right idea, they should have made it legal to sock anyone in the nose who blows that shit in your face or near you. I mean it's only a punch in the nose, there's no proof that that will cause cancer, right?

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                • #9
                  Vape or die.
                  WRX

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by talisman View Post
                    I do tend to agree that this is intrusive. If they wanted the right idea, they should have made it legal to sock anyone in the nose who blows that shit in your face or near you. I mean it's only a punch in the nose, there's no proof that that will cause cancer, right?
                    it's not that it's being prohibited that bothers me. It's that it's being prohibited by a government rather than letting individual businesses decide.
                    Originally posted by Broncojohnny
                    HOORAY ME and FUCK YOU!

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                    • #11
                      Skidmark is not gonna be happy about this.

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                      • #12
                        I regrettably went out with the wife the other day to meet one of her new friends. Both the friend and her husband were vaping. They have never smoked in their life but thought it was cool blowing that chit all over the place.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Nash B. View Post
                          it's not that it's being prohibited that bothers me. It's that it's being prohibited by a government rather than letting individual businesses decide.
                          Bingo! That's what pisses me off about this whole thing. I don't vape, or know anyone that does, but government bans just don't work for me.

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                          • #14
                            Fuck it I'm glad they did this. I could give a shit less if you smoke or vape but when I'm at the movies with my kids I don't want the prick in front of me doing it the entire movie. People are just rude about it and do it everywhere. In the store, on planes, any where they couldn't smoke just to do it. So you abused it and now you lost the privilege.

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                            • #15
                              I think that the should simply add "electronic" and "vapor" to all of the current and in place laws. That would fix the problem. I for one dont want any random fumes being blown in my face (which these people seem to enjoy doing).

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