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  • #61
    Originally posted by talisman View Post
    It was released in 1993, well into the grunge era, peckerwood.
    "Into the grunge era" does not mean it was grunge, peckerwood. Does that mean that everything released in 93 was grunge? Of course not.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by talisman View Post
      It isn't classic rock, it's shitty corporate wannabe grunge music.
      Originally posted by Chili View Post
      "Into the grunge era" does not mean it was grunge, peckerwood. Does that mean that everything released in 93 was grunge? Of course not.

      Craig, stop trying so hard to tell a story and read what you're responding to.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by crapstang View Post
        I'm glad I don't have to worry about being old. I'm 18 as of today
        I'm not the youngest!
        Originally posted by Theodore Roosevelt
        It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming...

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        • #64
          Originally posted by talisman View Post
          Craig, stop trying so hard to tell a story and read what you're responding to.
          You're crazy. It wasn't wannabe grunge. For you to even compare it to grunge is very disappointing. That's like saying that Warrant was wannabe grunge.

          It's wannabe hair band.

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          • #65
            Sheeiiittt. I hardly ever feel my age. I'm just getting my 2nd wind @ 41.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Chili View Post
              You're crazy. It wasn't wannabe grunge. For you to even compare it to grunge is very disappointing. That's like saying that Warrant was wannabe grunge.

              It's wannabe hair band.

              I hate to break this to you Craig, but you're smoking fucking crack.

              Rarely has a band's hometown been held against it, but that's definitely the case with Candlebox. Forming in 1990 and hailing out of Seattle, Candlebox was compared, for better and worse, with bands that were a part of the then burgeoning grunge scene. With more in common with classic rock...


              "Coming from Seattle, the band initially took a lot of abuse for being "grunge-lite". Does selling millions of records validate the band's approach and defuse some of the criticism?

              You can always say, "Fuck you, I've sold a million records." At the end of the day, it's always nice to feel like you have some kind of value in the marketplace. It's nicer to know that your peers respect what you do. For us, "grunge-lite" is such a funny term. I think the only band that could ever really be called Grunge was Tad. Nirvana is a punk band. Sound Garden was a fucking rock band, an acid rock band. Alice in Chains was a fucking metal band. Pearl Jam, I dare say those first two records were pop rock albums, almost arena rock. "Grunge-lite" was such an odd term to be thrown at us. We were five years younger than any of the guys in those bands. When you're an 18-year-old kid in Seattle in 1987 and everything's blowing up and you're in the mosh with your buddies, you realize that you have to wait until your legal to play the bars. By the time we came about in 1991, things had cooled down considerably."

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              • #67
                This is too easy. From their wiki:

                "In their early career, Candlebox was occasionally looked down upon by members of the grunge movement; they criticized Candlebox's style and image as riding the grunge bandwagon.[10] Nevertheless, the band played the Seattle club circuit and toured relentlessly."

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by talisman View Post
                  I hate to break this to you Craig, but you're smoking fucking crack.

                  Rarely has a band's hometown been held against it, but that's definitely the case with Candlebox. Forming in 1990 and hailing out of Seattle, Candlebox was compared, for better and worse, with bands that were a part of the then burgeoning grunge scene. With more in common with classic rock...


                  "Coming from Seattle, the band initially took a lot of abuse for being "grunge-lite". Does selling millions of records validate the band's approach and defuse some of the criticism?

                  You can always say, "Fuck you, I've sold a million records." At the end of the day, it's always nice to feel like you have some kind of value in the marketplace. It's nicer to know that your peers respect what you do. For us, "grunge-lite" is such a funny term. I think the only band that could ever really be called Grunge was Tad. Nirvana is a punk band. Sound Garden was a fucking rock band, an acid rock band. Alice in Chains was a fucking metal band. Pearl Jam, I dare say those first two records were pop rock albums, almost arena rock. "Grunge-lite" was such an odd term to be thrown at us. We were five years younger than any of the guys in those bands. When you're an 18-year-old kid in Seattle in 1987 and everything's blowing up and you're in the mosh with your buddies, you realize that you have to wait until your legal to play the bars. By the time we came about in 1991, things had cooled down considerably."
                  We'll have to agree to disagree. Candlebox was definitely not grunge, IMO. Regardless of what the Dallas Observer has to say. They only thing remotely "grunge" about them was that they started in the Seattle area.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by talisman View Post
                    This is too easy. From their wiki:

                    "In their early career, Candlebox was occasionally looked down upon by members of the grunge movement; they criticized Candlebox's style and image as riding the grunge bandwagon.[10] Nevertheless, the band played the Seattle club circuit and toured relentlessly."
                    And because they were "looked down upon" by members of the "grunge" movement, that makes them grunge? Hardly.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Chili View Post
                      And because they were "looked down upon" by members of the "grunge" movement, that makes them grunge? Hardly.

                      Read the rest of the sentence, Corky.

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                      • #71
                        were they like ironic grunge or something?
                        "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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                        • #72
                          Dazed and Confused came out the year I was born.



                          But it's okay. High school girls are still the same age.
                          Originally posted by Theodore Roosevelt
                          It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming...

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Baron Von Crowder View Post
                            were they like ironic grunge or something?
                            They were just long-winded grunge. Craig loved em!
                            When the government pays, the government controls.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by 46Tbird View Post
                              They were just long-winded grunge. Craig loved em!

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by talisman View Post
                                Read the rest of the sentence, Corky.
                                From Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grunge

                                A number of factors contributed to grunge's decline in prominence. During the latter half of the 1990s, grunge was supplanted by post-grunge, which remained commercially viable into the start of the 21st century. Post-grunge bands such as Candlebox and Bush emerged soon after grunge's breakthrough. These artists lacked the underground roots of grunge and were largely influenced by what grunge had become, namely "a wildly popular form of inward-looking, serious-minded hard rock." Post-grunge was a more commercially viable genre that tempered the distorted guitars of grunge with polished, radio-ready production.
                                I will go so far as to say that Candlebox was more pop than grunge. They were a fucking joke.

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