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    I think that this country is already in the middle of a revolution and no one has recognized it yet.


    A group of lawmakers in Maryland has introduced a bill that would deny state support to the National Security Agency (NSA) headquarters in Ft. Meade, Md., which might see electricity and water supplies cut to the intelligence nerve center.

    Eight Republicans from the 141-member Maryland House of Delegates introduced the legislation that would deny the NSA “material support, participation or assistance in any form” from the state or companies with state contracts

    In practice, this might mean that NSA facilities would be deprived of water and electricity, prevent state universities from partnering with the NSA in research projects, and ban NSA-derived evidence in state courts.

    Any officials working for the state that ignored these sanctions would be fired, while local government departments that refused to comply would lose state funds and companies doing business with the NSA would be barred from state contracts.

    The bill was filed as emergency legislation and requires the support of three-fifths of delegates to become law. It has been referred to the chamber’s judiciary committee for further work and consideration.

    The bill is the latest measure in a campaign spearheaded by the Tenth Amendment Center, which along with the Bill of Rights Defense Committee launched by the OffNow coalition last year is attempting to cut off water to the NSA’s brand new Utah data center.

    The Tenth Amendment states the US Constitution’s principle of federalism that powers not granted to the federal government by the Constitution, nor prohibited to the States, are reserved to the States or the people of the United States.

    Lawmakers in Arizona, California, Tennessee and Washington have filed bills based on legislation models from the Tenth Amendment Center.

    A bipartisan cohort of lawmakers in California introduced legislation last month that prohibits their state from providing “material support” to the NSA. If it becomes law it would have the same effect as the law proposed in Maryland.

    While universities operating research programs with the spy agency might be affected, the bill is largely symbolic as the NSA does not have any large facilities in California.

    Ted Lieu, the bill’s Democratic co-author, said in a statement that the NSA’s surveillance capabilities represent a “clear and present danger” to the liberties of US citizens.

    “I agree with the NSA that the world is a dangerous place. That is why our founders enacted the Bill of Rights. They understood the grave dangers of an out-of-control federal government,” he said.

    A similar bill was also introduced in Arizona in December. Senator Kelli Ward described her bill as a way “to back our neighbors [in Utah] up.” The NSA operates a huge data collection facility in Utah.

    The NSA facility in Maryland uses a vast amount of water and electricity. The Washington Post reported in January that the agency signed a contract for water to cool a computer center under construction at its Fort Meade base for nearly $2 million and the Baltimore Sun reported that from 2006 the NSA’s headquarters used as much electricity as the city of Annapolis.

    Any federal legislation curbing the NSA’s powers would likely be vetoed by President Barack Obama, who is broadly a supporter of NSA programs; although he has indicted that some reform of the agency is necessary.

    A group of lawmakers in Maryland has introduced a bill that would deny state support to the National Security Agency (NSA) headquarters in Ft. Meade, Md., which might see electricity and water supplies cut to the intelligence nerve center.

  • #2
    Good luck with that going anywhere.

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    • #3
      Now if they could only kill the power and water to the whitehouse and possibly the pentagon.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Trip McNeely View Post
        Good luck with that going anywhere.

        While you might be right, it gives me hope that people holding some form of power are using it to deliver a middle finger to The Man. Full scale revolt is impractical in this age. Confounding things and making fools out of those in charge who would flaunt their power with impunity is the only real weapon we've got. I see a big upset in the way this country is run in the next ten years.

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        • #5
          What pisses me off about stuff like this is it sounds great but it NEVER fucking goes anywhere. I can't count how many times I've seen things like this over the years with states telling the feds to fuck off with certain legislation or whatever and it never, ever actually gains any traction. Why can't a state, any state, come up with stuff that actually puts these bastards on the defensive for once and reminds them of where their place is?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Chuck_Finley View Post
            What pisses me off about stuff like this is it sounds great but it NEVER fucking goes anywhere. I can't count how many times I've seen things like this over the years with states telling the feds to fuck off with certain legislation or whatever and it never, ever actually gains any traction. Why can't a state, any state, come up with stuff that actually puts these bastards on the defensive for once and reminds them of where their place is?
            Because things like this are just pandering to folks. Too many statists in office right now to actually do anything about it.

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            • #7
              8 out of 141 and it's 100% partisan. Democrats have a 2-1 advantage in Maryland, this bill isn't going anywhere.

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              • #8
                Utah is working on the same thing with the NSA mainframes in the state saying that in a desert, a complex that burns 1.4 million gallons of water a day to supply computers with coolant is unworkable.
                I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                  Utah is working on the same thing with the NSA mainframes in the state saying that in a desert, a complex that burns 1.4 million gallons of water a day to supply computers with coolant is unworkable.
                  Holy fuck! Are they pentium 4's over clocked to 4ghz or what!?

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                  • #10
                    SALT LAKE CITY, February 12, 2014–Can Utah shut down the new NSA data center by turning off the water? A new bill introduced by state Rep. Marc Roberts seeks to do just that.

                    The legislation drafted by a transpartisan coalition organized by the Tenth Amendment Center (TAC) and the Bill of Rights Defense Committee (BORDC) called OffNow Coalition. The Utah Fourth Amendment Protection Act would expressly prohibit state material support, participation, and assistance to any federal agency that collects electronic date or metadata without a search warrant “that particularly desribes the person, place and thing to be searched or seized.”

                    “Without question, the mass surveillance and data collection by the Utah Data Center is a delicate and important matter,” Roberts said. “But for me, the language of the Fourth Amendment is clear. It simply protects us against unreasonable and unwarranted searches or seizures of our persons, private residencies and property, documents and information and personal and private belongings. This legislation preserves those rights to the people.”

                    This puts contracts that provide the 1.7 million gallons of water a day necessary to cool the NSA computers at its Bluffdale facility in the crosshairs.

                    Bluffdale, a political subdivision of Utah, provided the NSA with a sweetheart water deal. The bill would begin the process of ending that deal, potentially crippling the NSA’s ability to keep the facility functional.

                    “No water equals no NSA data center,” TAC executive director Michael Boldin said.

                    He called the potential impact of this legislation significant, especially compared to what Congress has done to deal with the agency.

                    “In 1975, Sen. Frank Church warned that the power of the NSA could enable ‘total tyranny.’ He recommended that Congress should limit the agency’s power. Almost four decades later, we’re still waiting. Congress is not going to stop the NSA. The people and their states have to,” Boldin said. “Turn it off.”

                    BORDC executive director Shahid Buttar echoed Boldin’s enthusiasm for state action.

                    “At stake is nothing less than our nation’s triumph in the Cold War. The NSA’s decade of warrantless surveillance en masse assaults not only the rights of hundreds of millions of law-abiding Americans, and our democracy as a whole, but resembles Soviet-style spying — on meth, empowered and amplified by the past generation’s remarkable advances in computing technology,” he said. “Utah residents have a chance to take matters into their own hands, defending democracy by shutting off state resources consumed by the Bluffdale data center in its assault on We the People, our fundamental rights, and the Constitution that enshrined them.”

                    Notable anti-establishment figures such as Naomi Wolf and Pentagon Papers whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg advise the BORDC.

                    “The NSA was welcomed by politicians in Utah with a promise that their activities would be “conducted according to constitutional law”. As we all know, that promise has been violated—institutionally, repeatedly, and aggressively,” said Utah Libertas Institute President Conor Boyack. ”If Congress and the Courts are unable or unwilling to rein in this beast and put a stop to the rising surveillance state, then it’s up to the states to stake their ground and resist such broad violations of the Constitution. This new bill, along with others like it in over a dozen states, would accomplish that very thing.”

                    As Boyack points out, Utah doesn’t stand alone. Earlier this week, a group of Maryland legislators introduced a similar bill, targeting water and other resources to NSA headquarters. Lawmakers in more than 10 other states, including California, Vermont and Alaska, have also introduced the legislation. A bill in Tennessee addresses material support and resources to the NSA’s encryption-breaking facility at Oak Ridge.

                    Boldin said other states need to join the push, even those without NSA facilities. He called it essential.

                    “If enough states do this in the coming years, the NSA won’t have a place in the country where their spy centers are welcome,” he said.

                    Other provisions of the Fourth Amendment Protection Act would also have an impact. The bill would make data collected by the NSA and shared with state and local law enforcement in Utah inadmissible in court, unless a specific warrant is issued.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                      Utah is working on the same thing with the NSA mainframes in the state saying that in a desert, a complex that burns 1.4 million gallons of water a day to supply computers with coolant is unworkable.
                      Always thought those cooling systems were generally closed loop.

                      Either way - ain't no state going to do shit. All politicians are acting one way for the masses, but kissing the fed's ass.
                      Originally posted by MR EDD
                      U defend him who use's racial slurs like hes drinking water.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Trip McNeely View Post
                        Good luck with that going anywhere.
                        authorization? How about the United States fucking government. Lose the grid, or you lose your job.
                        Originally posted by Broncojohnny
                        HOORAY ME and FUCK YOU!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ceyko View Post
                          Always thought those cooling systems were generally closed loop.
                          Even if they are, they have to be cleaned. That water usage might be a from big evap stack for the HVAC systems.
                          ZOMBIE REAGAN FOR PRESIDENT 2016!!! heh

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Nash B. View Post
                            authorization? How about the United States fucking government. Lose the grid, or you lose your job.
                            Uh yeah, this is Walt down at Nakatomi. Listen, would it be possible for you to shut down grid 212?

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