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  • #46
    Originally posted by lewis77 View Post
    So here's a question for you local leos. When I was pulled over a couple of weeks ago, how is it that they knew I had a chl before even getting to the door?
    Probably the same thing as here in VA. Cop pulls up license/registration info it discloses whether or not person has a permit.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by SS Junk View Post
      Probably the same thing as here in VA. Cop pulls up license/registration info it discloses whether or not person has a permit.
      Originally posted by FastFord19 View Post
      I'm LEO and I have never seen a CHL on a LP return.
      Originally posted by Gtracer View Post
      have you ever pulled over a CHL holder?



      maybe the story is a bit BS...considering that there is "no" national database that we are "aware" of.
      Originally posted by FastFord19 View Post
      Yup. I did yesterday.


      So, how does this work?
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      • #48
        I have no idea. All states are different. I don't see how MDTA could have info from a FL resident. Maybe they went so far as to call FL police before pulling him over?

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        • #49
          Originally posted by SS Junk View Post
          I have no idea. All states are different. I don't see how MDTA could have info from a FL resident. Maybe they went so far as to call FL police before pulling him over?
          Perhaps. Looks like FL lets everybody and their dog know who has a CHL:
          ...
          Florida's concealed carry law states: "The Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services shall maintain an automated listing of licenseholders and pertinent information, and such information shall be available online, upon request, at all times to all law enforcement agencies through the Florida Crime Information Center."
          ...
          As anybody who is a member of NRA knows, we support the dedicated men and women of law enforcement who put themselves in harm's way for the benefit of us all.? We understand that most law enforcement officers take their oaths to defend and uphold the Constitution of the United States seriously.? We also understand that untold thousands of reassuring interactions occur between citizens and law enforcement officers every day.
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          • #50
            Yes. FL and other states share reciprocity with MTA:



            Yesterday we spotlighted a story about a Florida family driving through Maryland and mysteriously being targeted for a police stop. They were questioned about owning a gun, detained, searched, their car contents emptied – searched, and after approximately 90 minutes to 2 hours of detention during the search they were released.

            Obviously for the driver, John Filippidis, and his family, this was alarming. What would prompt the Maryland Transportation Authority Police (MTAP) to randomly select their vehicle?

            Because the first question to Mr. Filippidis was about his gun ownership, and the police search for the gun was based on his gun ownership, the Florida CCW permit that Filippidis holds was identified as the most likely impetus for the stop, questioning and search. [His firearm was locked in a safe in his Florida home]

            This strikes us as highly alarming – so we contacted MTAP and we immediately filed public records requests to research what took place.

            However, our interest has also spurred numerous contacts, tips and directions to help understand what’s going on. We now know where else to look to find out what exactly is going on. Mr. Filippidis’ experience is merely the tip of the iceberg.

            What is written below explains how the family was targeted; why the family was targeted; and what intentions were behind the MTAP engagement.
            Maryland State has invested heavily in Homeland Security technical capabilities, and they have structured their law enforcement community to engage in very specific activity surrounding their investment.

            Maryland State has a network of technical security databases which access the databases of all other states who comply and coordinate with them. For states who do not willfully comply, or those who are not set up to align technically, Maryland mines data from various LEO systems.

            Maryland has a rather innocuous sounding name for the intelligence hub which contains this data, it’s called Maryland Coordination and Analysis Center.

            The intelligence analysis hub has access to, and contains, Florida’s CCW list (among other identification systems) and mines the state’s database systems for vehicle plate numbers of the holders. These license plate numbers are then stored in a cross referencing database within the Maryland Coordination and Analysis Center.

            The database is directly connected to another Maryland technological system – Their ALPR (Automatic License Plate Reader) system is synergized with the MCAC Hub.

            Every time one of the flagged license plates are detected by the ALPR an alert is generated.

            Mr. Filippidis license plate was picked up at the Fort McHenry Tunnel on I-95 as he noted within the article. The Maryland Authority Police pursuit car was probably positioned a couple miles from the ALPR camera. The camera(s) located at the tunnel itself.

            “More than 320 ALPRs are in use across Maryland. Information about every scanned license plate–even non-criminal–is stored at the Maryland Coordination and Analysis Center.” (link)

            [...] These days cameras are everywhere, but some do more than watch–they automatically run criminal records.

            [...] Specially assigned police officers have LPRs mounted on their cars. Said Det. Brian Ralph, Baltimore Police. Ralph can scan up to 3,000 tag numbers a shift, searching for stolen vehicles and violent criminals. (link)

            Once the pursuit car was alerted by the ALPR system the simple chase was on. As the Tampa Tribune indicated in the article, the patrol car came abreast of Filippidi; this was to allow the MTAP officer to visually confirm the driver ID from the high resolution photo from Filippidis driver’s license which was automatically on the officers on board computer screen.

            Mr. Filippidis was identified by the database, his license plate cross referenced to his Florida CCW permit, an alert transmitted to the patrolling Maryland officer, and the rest is outlined in the article.

            [...] Finally the patrol car’s emergency lights come on, and it’s almost a relief. Whatever was going on, they’d be able to get it over with now. The officer — from the Transportation Authority Police, as it turns out, Maryland’s version of the New York-New Jersey Port Authority — strolls up, does the license and registration bit, and returns to his car.

            [...] Ten minutes later he’s back, and he wants John out of the Expedition. Retreating to the space between the SUV and the unmarked car, the officer orders John to hook his thumbs behind his back and spread his feet. “You own a gun,” the officer says. “Where is it?”

            Yesterday we spotlighted a story about a Florida family driving through Maryland and mysteriously being targeted for a police stop.? They were?questioned about owning a gun, detained, searched, their car contents emptied – searched, and after approximately 90 minutes to 2 hours of detention during the search they were released. Obviously for the?driver, John Filippidis, […]

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            • #51
              now that the story the driver told is confirmed, that is 100% complete bullshit, illegal, and unconstitutional.
              "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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              • #52
                ^^ Holy hell. Gestapo much?
                "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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                • #53
                  Fuckthejackbootedthugs?
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                  • #54
                    he should have went to jail for obstruction!
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Mach1 View Post
                      he should have went to jail for obstruction!
                      ???

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                      • #56
                        This should be in the armory. Also good point on as to why the gun registry should be banned. Jesus christ its worse in the Northeast than in the fucking UK.
                        First hand witness at the failure of public healthcare.

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                        • #57
                          Might have been adressed but, if u run their DL in TX, it will say CHL holder active/suspended, etc. LP do not show CHL. LP returns show warrants both for tickets and for TX and National class b+ warrants. Stolen. Runaway/missing person. It also shows insurance. Thats it.

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                          • #58
                            Brave New World we live in, where going about your business lawfully is against the law.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Tannerm View Post
                              Might have been adressed but, if u run their DL in TX, it will say CHL holder active/suspended, etc. LP do not show CHL. LP returns show warrants both for tickets and for TX and National class b+ warrants. Stolen. Runaway/missing person. It also shows insurance. Thats it.
                              But can't you get a name from the LP, then run the name and get CHL info?

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