Let's discuss the Lone Survivor Movie (situation) scenario

[Jose]

One thing I've been wanting to ask having never been to that part of the world, how accurate was the terrain as far as the mountains and trees? Does it really look like that over there? Read somewhere (IMDB I think) that it was mostly filmed in New Mexico so just wondering how the two compare.

[GhostTX]

http://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/lone-survivor.php

[Pokulski-Blatz]

Mrs. Axleson fucked me up at the end of that video.

[BMCSean]

Mrs. Axleson fucked me up at the end of that video.

Me too!



I haven't seen the movie yet, but these movies and books always do two things to me. They make me glad that the story is out there to hopefully stir more respect/understanding/support for the military, and they make me feel like I should have done more when I was in.

[Barbie]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mikehayes/man-shot-and-killed-in-fight-over-texting-during-movie-at-ta

Guy shot a person for texting during Lone Survivor

[Pokulski-Blatz]

Me too!

She sounded just like my mom or my grandmother when talking about Mike. I fucking hate that I understand how Gold Star Families feel, but I feel humbled to be in such company.

[jdgregory84]

They were only confirming the target was there, not taking him out.

They confirmed the target was there right off the bat. Their mission was to " capture and eliminate" or something like that according to the movie. They sent a confirmation photo to their OP and just hung out for no reason?

[Pokulski-Blatz]

They confirmed the target was there right off the bat. Their mission was to " capture and eliminate" or something like that according to the movie. They sent a confirmation photo to their OP and just hung out for no reason?

Again, in real life their mission was to positively ID Ahmad Shah. Here is a list of the phases that the mission was supposed to follow. Also, remember they were having serious coms issues. They didn't "hang out" for no reason, they were attacked about an hour after the mission was compromised. It seems that you are using the movie as a factual accounting of Red Wings. It was pretty off in a lot of places. Read Marcus' book and do some reading on Red Wings. The SEALs did the right thing 100% even though it cost them dearly. I for one would rather be dead with honor instead of living in Leavenworth.

Phase 1: Shaping: A U.S. Navy SEAL reconnaissance and surveillance team is tasked to insert in the region of the suspected safe buildings of Ahmad Shah, observe and identify Shah and his men and specific locations, and guide a direct action team of phase two to structures in which Shah and his men are observed to be staying.
Phase 2: Action on the Objective: A SEAL direct action team is to insert by MH-47, followed shortly by Marines, to capture or kill Shah and his men.
Phase 3: Outer Cordon: Marines, along with Afghan National Army soldiers, are to sweep surrounding valleys for other suspected insurgents.
Phase 4: Security and Stabilization: In the days after the first three phases, Marines and Afghan National Army soldiers and Navy Corpsmen will provide medical care to the local population and determine local needs, such as improved roads, wells, and schools.
Phase 5: Exfiltration: Depending on enemy activity, the Marines will remain in the area for up to one month, then depart the area.

[KBScobravert]

They confirmed the target was there right off the bat. Their mission was to " capture and eliminate" or something like that according to the movie. They sent a confirmation photo to their OP and just hung out for no reason?

They were the OP. There comms were giving them trouble reaching their TOC/JOC (Tactical/Joint Operations Center). Comms issues are typical in the mountains. Hell even on flat ground like an Bagram Airfield you can have problems.

Remember that they were getting to higher ground to establish better comms to send the message they spotted him and ALSO that they had been compromised.

[dee]

The crazy thing is that there is footage from the other side of things on this. It's about 30 minutes long and shows the two deceased Seals, and their gear, weapons, laptop, ect. They also show that the Seal team was up against 10 men 2 of which where filming things. It's certainly not the dozens or hundreds that many are being led to believe.

I don't think the book said there were that many just that they had the high ground on them which made it like fighting that many.

I'm not going to go digging for it. It was one of those nights where you end up following 18 links when you were just intending to toss something in your amazon cart. From what I read, they met before he starting writing the book, and that was the end of his involvement.

Was it a legitimate site? I think I would likely have trouble believing some random link off of amazon that took several sites to get to.

[talisman]

Was it a legitimate site? I think I would likely have trouble believing some random link off of amazon that took several sites to get to.

Looked like it to me, but who knows.


Everything on the internet is true. -Abraham Lincoln

[Jose]

Damn that looks pretty close to what I've seen in New Mexico/Colorado and what was shown in the movie.

[Sean88gt]

I'm still trying to decide if I want to see it.

[Jose]

I'm still trying to decide if I want to see it.

Have you read the book yet? Either way I'd recommend going to see it. I'll probably sneak off and see an early showing Friday by myself. If you haven't read the book, probably a good idea to see it beforehand that way you go into it without any opinions on the movie and just enjoy it for what it is.

[Pokulski-Blatz]

I'm still trying to decide if I want to see it.

Go for it man. I didn't find it too tough to watch.