Let's discuss the Lone Survivor Movie (situation) scenario

[Pokulski-Blatz]

I can't remember where I saw it but Marcus said he had an issue with that scene in the movie. He stated that it didn't happen like that. He said there was no discussion, they knew they were letting them go and they all agreed. The movie just needed drama

That part pissed me off more than anything else.

[dmh165638]

Have you ever listened to Luttrell talk? He might be brilliant on the battlefield but he is not a writer.

Yes. Read my post again and that is exactly the point I was trying to make. Someone said the book was entirely ghost written and Luttrell did not read or approve the final version. Using a ghostwriter is usually a good thing in cases like this where the person in the story is not suitable to do the writing himself. Using a ghostwriter doesn't automatically mean the content is BS or fiction. Everything I have read says Luttrell provided most of the content for the book while the ghostwriter just put it to paper.

[dmh165638]

For those that have read the book of just seen the movie like myself, as a non-military person, why would you not kill those guys that stumbled across your location? Or at least bind them to a tree, and then gtfo. I don't understand the 'just let em go' mentality and just hike out like they did.

I understand they had orders, and roughly understand rules of engagement, but that just seemed like they were sealing their own fate doing that, which it did. I mean, you don't know if they are good or bad, you have no communications, you are in unknown territory in their backyard. Thoughts?

I understand completely why they did it. Isn't their actions a good example of why America is America and not some 3rd world shit hole?

[Forever_frost]

These guys were professionals and they did not kill people that were not enemy combatants. I would not have killed them either. When they were discovered, their mission was compromised and over. They have contingency plans for things like this and they should have been put in place. The screwed up thing is that their communication devices did not work well due to the terrain and by the time they got to an area where they did, they were ambushed. It's easy to second guess their decisions...but they get to make them as they proved that they were true warriors by what they had been through. RIP to those men. The true heroes did not make it home that day.

This. You do not kill noncombatants and chasing them down to tie them up? That could lead you into an ambush or separate you from your team. Also, you don't shoot because that report would be heard for miles. And no matter what you read, military members, especially the special forces, are not killing machines. They do not kill what they don't have to.

Ever tried to pull the trigger on a kid?

[dee]

That part pissed me off more than anything else.

That part and the village scene were the only major faults I found. I would have liked it a bit better if they stuck to the book in that area and the water bottle was to clean.

[black2002ls]

That part and the village scene were the only major faults I found. I would have liked it a bit better if they stuck to the book in that area and the water bottle was to clean.

I don't think they knew about the rescue mission, nor did they see it go down. (I could be wrong, its been a while since I read the book)

[Probie]

This. You do not kill noncombatants and chasing them down to tie them up? That could lead you into an ambush or separate you from your team. Also, you don't shoot because that report would be heard for miles. And no matter what you read, military members, especially the special forces, are not killing machines. They do not kill what they don't have to.

Ever tried to pull the trigger on a kid?

Have you?

[Forever_frost]

Have you? Lol

Do you honestly want me to answer that or would you like the standard remark?

[Probie]

Do you honestly want me to answer that or would you like the standard remark?

I asked. Answer accordingly.

[Forever_frost]

I asked. Answer accordingly.

Yes.

[SMKR]

x2

I really hate it when assholes armchair quarterback real heroes.

My intentions weren't to disrespect or armchair QB. Just review the options and thought process, if possible.

[Nash B.]

I thought the movie looked good so I was going to buy the book. Then I found out it was ghost written in its entirety, without even having a final read and approval by the guy who survived. That means about 95% of it is bullshit that the author "imagined" happened. And that is where I lost any interest in it.

There is a lot of horseshit like this out there these days and the public just eats it the hell up. I have a friend who is a democrat that went and saw The Butler in the theater and went on this ridiculous white guilt trip on FB about it, when everything aside from "There was a black Butler that worked in the White House at one point" was completely fictionalized bullshit. It sickens me.

I'll watch LS on Netflix at some point, but I'm not going to give them any money to encourage this type of crap to continue getting made. It's one of the overriding problems with this country these days. The facts don't matter, just decide what you want the gist of the story to be and make up the rest to suit your agenda. The sad thing is that this one comes from the side I am usually on. To me, the entire thing is suspect, so I won't waste my time on "What ifs."

I think you're confusing "based on true story" movies with documentaries. They serve different purposes.

[Pokulski-Blatz]

My intentions weren't to disrespect or armchair QB. Just review the options and thought process, if possible.

davbrucas hit the nail on the head. The team made the right call. Sucks they got caught up in a shit situation, but thems the breaks.

[Probie]

Yes.

Well I'm sorry to hear that.

davbrucas hit the nail on the head. The team made the right call. Sucks they got caught up in a shit situation, but thems the breaks.

This. And X2 on the armchair QB thing. It was the same story with any of the mall/movie theater/ school shooting stuff. You don't know what you will do in a situation until you are put in it.

[Pokulski-Blatz]

You don't know what you will do in a situation until you are put in it.

Exactly. I had no idea how I was going to react when I had to draw my CCW in the middle of N Beach St. several years ago until it happened. No one will understand until they are in that position.