Homeowner kills Deputy in No-Knock

[GhostTX]

The fact that he did have drugs is what is going to fuck him in this situation. It validates the warrant. Him killing an officer is going to strengthen the very basis of what the warrant was built on. This should be an easy capital murder slam dunk for any DA worth a shit.

Won't argue that.

As I said in my ninja-edit above, there's going to be a no-knock situation like this at a wrong address, then it'll get real interesting.

[stevo]

Won't argue that.

As I said in my ninja-edit above, there's going to be a no-knock situation like this at a wrong address, then it'll get real interesting.

It happens, the home-owner usually gets shot.

Stevo

[jyro]

don't forget

You know damn well cops forget all that bullshit as soon as boot camp is over. The first item on the docket is to taze and apprehend all minorities, white trash, africans (people from Africa) and last but not least, ALL Muslim's. Beatings are given out on a per person basis and the cops with the most DWI arrests get the best shifts...

shooting the dog

[Whiteboy]

Shoot first ask questions later.

[sc281]

You must not know guns bro! There are loads of DA/SA semi-autos out there. Ass loads!

He's talking about when the last round is fired the slide locks back, not allowing the trigger to be pulled anymore.

[Country cracker]

Just say no to no-knocks!

[Denny]

You have to also question the wisdom in making the "no-knock" decision. There doesn't sound like that option was needed. They could have gone the conventional search warrant route.

[Sean88gt]

Shame the guy died over a plant that will be legal in less than a decade.

Also a shame he decided to act in a constitutionally questionable manner that resulted in him being killed.

[Forever_frost]

You have to also question the wisdom in making the "no-knock" decision. There doesn't sound like that option was needed. They could have gone the conventional search warrant route.

There is considerable chance that the police department felt that the mixture of firearms and drugs rendered a very volatile situation that could be best handled during the night hours when the suspect was either asleep or distracted using maximum violence to deter any sort of armed response. Unfortunately their actions resulted in a casualty.

Perhaps officers should be equipped with thermal cameras to view where the occupants are exactly, along with the numbers of said occupants to minimize danger to officers?

[Vertnut]

I do know one thing for sure: he got himself one badass attorney. DeGuerin is an old classmate of my dad's from Austin, and I can assure you he's not in this to lose. He handles mainly high profile cases...and wins.

[BMCSean]

There is considerable chance that the police department felt that the mixture of firearms and drugs rendered a very volatile situation that could be best handled during the night hours when the suspect was either asleep or distracted using maximum violence to deter any sort of armed response. Unfortunately their actions resulted in a casualty.

Perhaps officers should be equipped with thermal cameras to view where the occupants are exactly, along with the numbers of said occupants to minimize danger to officers?

Seriously, this "new frost" is freaking me out.

[hustleman]

You're a cop, right? Seems you need to know Texas penal code...


Sec. 46.04. UNLAWFUL POSSESSION OF FIREARM. (a) A person who has been convicted of a felony commits an offense if he possesses a firearm:

(1) after conviction and before the fifth anniversary of the person's release from confinement following conviction of the felony or the person's release from supervision under community supervision, parole, or mandatory supervision, whichever date is later; or

(2) after the period described by Subdivision (1), at any location other than the premises at which the person lives.

What did I miss? Said the above stated term… Meaning 5 years

[hustleman]

I believe you guys are saying the same thing Brent...by "above stated term" he is likely referring to the 5yr term that was stated previously.

That would be correct. BCOOP just loves to think I'm wrong.

[Forever_frost]

Seriously, this "new frost" is freaking me out.

In order to ensure the maximum safety of both the officers and the individual in question, thermal surveillance would make the most sense. You have an understanding of who is where and can see outlines of weapons if they are present. The grow lights in this instance would have been a very large flare that would have provided probable cause for a search warrant if the officers had only driven down the street looking through the camera for such thermal blooms.

Revenue made from enforcing current traffic laws could conceivably pay for several of these cameras and the officer's training on them. If funds fall short, simply divert more officers to traffic enforcement and discuss with the district attorney the possibility of utilizing plea bargains as further revenue generation to outfit all squad cars with cameras that can permit the SWAT units to 'see' what the officer's vehicle sees in real time.

[SS Junk]

There is considerable chance that the police department felt that the mixture of firearms and drugs rendered a very volatile situation that could be best handled during the night hours when the suspect was either asleep or distracted using maximum violence to deter any sort of armed response. Unfortunately their actions resulted in a casualty.

Just like they should have done with Koresh- pick him up at the fucking grocery store. Make a stop and detain while his house is searched.

Perhaps officers should be equipped with thermal cameras to view where the occupants are exactly, along with the numbers of said occupants to minimize danger to officers?

I'd think that would get into invasion of privacy laws?