Texas Student Killed by Campus Police

[hustleman]

And you seem unable to come up with stories to back up your belief that anything but what was reported happened. Cognitive dissonance is a bitch isn't it?

When are you going to realize that the media is not going to report a story that eliminates any skepticism when it involves LE. No one wants to read a story like that. Not enough drama to hold the readers attention. The media will always leave information out or add possibilities regardless of the source to enhance the details.

[hustleman]

Work harder, you have only filled the 'idiot' portion of it so far.

Stevo

Ill step my game up.

[Gtracer]

Here are some items I can confirm that most should be aware of and require little to no common sense. I am even fully capable of all these items when I am trashed. 1. Don't drink and drive. 2. If you do drink and drive and get caught then resisting or running will worsen the situation significantly. 3. Resisting arrest for any reason could quite possibly escalate and the grand prize could be a bullet. 4. Don't take an officers weapon and use it against him.

I am not normally a FTP kind of guy...well not out loud anyways but I have a couple of small bits I have noticed.

1. The guy was drunk and several witnesses mention this....where is the non-lethal force (Tazer, Pepper spray/foam, mace, baton to the knees)? The officer, as trained as they are should be able to spot a drunken person and respond accordingly. I would hope that someone who is authorized to walk around with a weapon that is secured by a small leather strap would be capable enough to hold onto it...responsible gun ownership applies to us; it should apply to them as well.

2. How the hell does a sober officer become overpowered by a drunk to the point he fears for his life? Maybe he should be sitting behind a desk where he is more competent and not restrained by their lack of physical capabilities. Hell, at this point, all you would need is a whole department of fatties walking around in order to start having justified shootings all the time as they were incompetent enough to respond with the same measure of force that is exerted upon them and feared for their life.

Departments should maintain a physical requirement on a bi-annual/quarterly assessment. To me, I would only want capable officers protecting my community, not some fatty or 65 year old officer, to me, that is the same as giving a gun to someone who cannot handle it.

3. The officer does have a small bit of responsibility as to what happened as he made a mistake as well by being unfamiliar or unaware of his exact location, physically incapable of restraining the suspect and procrastinated too long before attempting to restrain the suspect; 60 commands...how long did that take? It’s no wonder the guy didn’t take him seriously and even then, the officer should have recognized the threat of “hey, this guy is not doing as he is told”. If I allow someone access to one of my firearms, intentional or not, and they use it in a criminal way, you can be damned sure someone will be looking at me. If I allow someone access to a metal pipe and they go and beat someone to death with it…you can bet someone will be asking “where did the pipe come from”.

Just my thoughts…but hey, you can guarantee I will never question the man with the gun.

[Broncojohnny]

When are you going to realize that the media is not going to report a story that eliminates any skepticism when it involves LE. No one wants to read a story like that. Not enough drama to hold the readers attention. The media will always leave information out or add possibilities regardless of the source to enhance the details.

Sounds like a huge conspiracy. Like that story about the DPS idiots who fingered the woman's asshole on the side of the road. Good thing that all turned out to be made up!

[dmh165638]

I have no problem questioning the man with the gun but not while it is pointed at me. Questioning and getting physical are also two completely different things that also bring different responses. Call me crazy but when I hear "i am going to shoot" I won't be responding with sarcasm and a charge!

[ftp]

Tuesdays fun fact is... you are 8 times more likely to be killed by police than a terrorist.

The police are fucking pussies now a days. They seem to always be in fear of people and treat everyone like they're guilty until proven innocent. America is a militarized police state, the worlds highest prison population is right here in America.

[dcs13]

More fun facts:
587 Police related deaths in 2012 (MOst justified)
3000 people die ANNUALLY from food poisoning
195,000 dies annually in hospitals from MEDICAL errors....


One bad shooting is too many....

[The King]

Let's all focus on the word "campus" in the "campus police officer" title because that is key in this entire incident for the dfwmustangs police jurisdiction experts. He is a officer of the law regardless of what other words are thrown into the title. If the officer had ignored this kids erratic driving and he later crashed into an innocent families car most of you would be bitching about why the officer didn't do anything. im.

Rather, let's all focus on the fact that an honor student is now dead and whether this campus police officer was justified in using deadly force against him.

[Snatch Napkin]

I'm curious to see if there is any connection between this student and this cop. Perhaps a daughter, or wife. LOL!!!

I mean, the cop did call in the wrong location for backup.

[Gtracer]

I'm curious to see if there is any connection between this student and this cop. Perhaps a daughter, or wife. LOL!!!

I mean, the cop did call in the wrong location for backup.

Did not think of that, or maybe the officer was under duress for some reason other than the obvious...either way, a mistake on both parties.

[Snatch Napkin]

Did not think of that, or maybe the officer was under duress for some reason other than the obvious...either way, a mistake on both parties.

Don't get me wrong, there is a fairly high likelihood that he was drinking and became mouthy. I'm just curious as to why.

IF he did, in fact, cause the entire altercation then he got what was coming to him.

[dmh165638]

Being an honor student really is irrelevant to the situation. So if he was not an honor student does it change the situation? Because everyone says "he was the most gentle human they had ever known" make any difference when he is beating the cop with his night stick? Not a bit! Could any of this have been prevented? Absolutely and everything should be looked at to prevent it from happening again. He was not some innocent victim that got put into a bad situation unwillingly. Every step of the way he made a decision to escalate and it started with him hopping in his car and driving home drunk. Not a single person has even said a damn thing about his friend who was bar hopping with him, confirmed it to the police and media, but had no issue letting him drive home. So several steps of the way before the cop was ever involved in the situation this could have been prevented but we won't even consider that part of the equation.

[Rick Modena]

Sounds like a huge conspiracy. Like that story about the DPS idiots who fingered the woman's asshole on the side of the road. Good thing that all turned out to be made up!

lmao!

IF he did, in fact, cause the entire altercation then he got what was coming to him.

Some people just don't have common sense, you see the Gestapo with a side arm, tazer, baton, ASP, all pumped up on roids and memories of getting sand kicked in his eyes and you still approach with nothing more than a forked tongue.

[Gtracer]

but we won't even consider that part of the equation.

just the part where he was killed

[dmh165638]

just the part where he was killed

And if he had died because of driving drunk there wouldn't even be a post on here about it. It wouldn't be near the travesty although it still would have been his choices that led to his death. Had he killed another innocent motorist people wouldn't be whining "but he was an honor student".