Texas Student Killed by Campus Police

[BradM]

He said stop once for every punch or kick he delivered.

That's actually very realistic, I repeated it every time someone kept fighting before striking them again.

[hustleman]

56 times? That is unbelievable.

Stevo

U seem to believe every story frost post up. Why is that so unbelievable? If it was printed and posted on the internet, it holds true.

[The King]

Condolences to the Redus family. Since the shooting reportedly took place at an apartment complex parking lot off-campus, the question is why this officer presumed his authority extended off of university property.

[BP]

Condolences to the Redus family. Since the shooting reportedly took place at an apartment complex parking lot off-campus, the question is why this officer presumed his authority extended off of university property.

A commissioned peace officer can arrest anyone in Texas, regardless of where they may work. It's not authority, the law calls it jurisdiction. They are actually compelled to act if they witness a felony.

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/CR/htm/CR.14.htm

[CJ]

No sympathy. You are responsible for your own actions.

[DriveWayBuilt]

No sympathy. You are responsible for your own actions.

x2, it's a bad situation when someone losses a family member but No matter who you are, You will end up with shitty end of the stick when you fight/Resist against an officer.

[The King]

A commissioned peace officer can arrest anyone in Texas, regardless of where they may work. It's not authority, the law calls it jurisdiction. They are actually compelled to act if they witness a felony.

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.u.../htm/CR.14.htm

Fair enough then. Arrest is one thing, use of deadly force is another. The question now then would be did this officer indeed witness any felony being committed by this student, who simply by virtue of being a student at this university would be considered by any reasonable person to have had a legit reason to be on campus.

Normally I would side with law enforcement, but in this case I do not so far based on the report quoted in this thread.

[Forever_frost]

U seem to believe every story frost post up. Why is that so unbelievable? If it was printed and posted on the internet, it holds true.

And you seem unable to come up with stories to back up your belief that anything but what was reported happened. Cognitive dissonance is a bitch isn't it?

[stevo]

U seem to believe every story frost post up. Why is that so unbelievable? If it was printed and posted on the internet, it holds true.

Working hard to fill the role of 'village LEO idiot' that was left vacant when Matt tucked tail, aren't you?

Stevo

[JP135]

Cognitive dissonance is a bitch isn't it?

As are paranoia and intentional obtuseness.

Nothing short of the officer being injured or killed would satisfy you.

[BP]

Fair enough then. Arrest is one thing, use of deadly force is another. The question now then would be did this officer indeed witness any felony being committed by this student, who simply by virtue of being a student at this university would be considered by any reasonable person to have had a legit reason to be on campus.

Normally I would side with law enforcement, but in this case I do not so far based on the report quoted in this thread.

Actually according to the school's policies their police do have jurisdiction over adjacent apartment complexes. I'd guess the student didn't realize that campus police are real peace officers. They aren't just security guards with a whistle. I would assume that the general protocol would be for them to detain speeders until the locals arrive, unless it's a student. In this case the student apparently ignored the officer and tried walking away, when confronted he swiped his baton and struck the officer. That's when he started shooting.

Alamo Heights is a very nice neighborhood inside of San Antonio. Most of the homes there are $400+k with several in the multi million dollar range. It's between the nice downtown area (Riverwalk) and Fort Sam Houston. Lots of high ranking military and medical contractors.

[racrguy]

Given the recent rash of unjustified shootings by the police, I am forced to be skeptical of the situation. I want to see film, I just don't trust the word of the police anymore. Also: DUI is a felony?

[dmh165638]

I have sympathy for the family that lost their son but it doesn't go beyond that. It is very unfortunate that backup didn't arrive in time because the officer reported his location incorrectly. Could this all have gone completely different? Absolutely and you can start with the kid's action that started that snowball rolling. A very large number of the facts in this situation have been confirmed by friends of the kid yet most of you FTP people won't ever believe it. He was very likely drunk after a night of bar hopping and this was confirmed by a friend who was with him. A neighbor of Redus heard a good portion of the scuffle and heard the officer give over 60 commands. Audio of the incident "reportedly"(the audio will be released at some point) confirms the repeated ignored commands and scuffle. Let's all focus on the word "campus" in the "campus police officer" title because that is key in this entire incident for the dfwmustangs police jurisdiction experts. He is a officer of the law regardless of what other words are thrown into the title. If the officer had ignored this kids erratic driving and he later crashed into an innocent families car most of you would be bitching about why the officer didn't do anything. If you cannot deal with the consequences of your actions then don't play the stupid game in the first place.

Here are some items I can confirm that most should be aware of and require little to no common sense. I am even fully capable of all these items when I am trashed. 1. Don't drink and drive. 2. If you do drink and drive and get caught then resisting or running will worsen the situation significantly. 3. Resisting arrest for any reason could quite possibly escalate and the grand prize could be a bullet. 4. Don't take an officers weapon and use it against him.

[hustleman]

Working hard to fill the role of 'village LEO idiot' that was left vacant when Matt tucked tail, aren't you?

Stevo

You bet!!!

[stevo]

You bet!!!

Work harder, you have only filled the 'idiot' portion of it so far.

Stevo