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  • Craigslist WTF!

    Below is what I saw when I logged in to renew my ads on Craigslist. WTF is the fees about???


    WELCOME TO CRAIGSLIST. We hope you find it useful. By accessing our servers, websites, or content therefrom (together, "CL"), you agree to these Terms of Use ("TOU"), last updated December 05, 2013.

    LICENSE. If you are 18 or older, we grant you a limited, revocable, nonexclusive, nonassignable, nonsublicensable license to access CL in compliance with the TOU; unlicensed access is unauthorized. You agree not to license, distribute, make derivative works, display, sell, or "frame" content from CL, excluding content you create and sharing with friends/family. You grant us a perpetual, irrevocable, unlimited, worldwide, fully paid/sublicensable license to use, copy, perform, display, distribute, and make derivative works from content you post.

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  • #2
    Subscribed ... I just checked mine as well, same shit.

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    • #4
      I know they have been charging for employment ads in big cities for a while, maybe it is just a generic form.

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      • #5
        Your getting that notice because some types of listings in certain cities require a fee (jobs).

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        • #6
          One time when I had been through a few cars and had a few for sale adds running it did something weird like that. It was like a warning my next posting was going to have a fee.
          Whos your Daddy?

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          • #7
            Hope this gets rid of all Scum Scammers

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            • #8
              6. Cars/trucks by-dealer in the United States—$5. (starting 12/3).
              I have no problem with that dealers are clogging up the car/truck section with bs ads and make it more difficult to search.

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              • #9
                Kingjason, that's likely because they update the TOS at that time, as it appears the TOS was updated today from OP copy.

                You have to spend 2k+ on ads in 90 to be billed to your account anyhow, otherwise you have to prepay.

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                • #10
                  Originally posted by GrayStangGT View Post
                  I have no problem with that dealers are clogging up the car/truck section with bs ads and make it more difficult to search.
                  No fucking kidding. I only do by owner anyway, but seeing them posted for 2 straight pages does NOT make me want to look at it, nor buy it.
                  Originally posted by Buzzo
                  Some dudes jump out of airplanes, I fuck hookers without condoms.

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                  • #11
                    Originally posted by GrayStangGT View Post
                    I have no problem with that dealers are clogging up the car/truck section with bs ads and make it more difficult to search.
                    I agree. Those fuckers spam ads and push everyone elses shit down the list. I am a dealer and I like this. The one thing that I don't like is that you can't renew the ads as a dealer. That pisses me off, I am paying for the ads, I should be able to bring them back up to the top.

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                    • #12
                      Originally posted by GrayStangGT View Post
                      I have no problem with that dealers are clogging up the car/truck section with bs ads and make it more difficult to search.
                      that pisses me off! They have the same ad 20 times on one page. Fucking annoying.

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                      • #13
                        Dealers are now flooding the by owner section. Oh my, I'm shocked by this unforeseen turn of events..

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                        • #14
                          Originally posted by JC316 View Post
                          Dealers are now flooding the by owner section. Oh my, I'm shocked by this unforeseen turn of events..
                          Sign them up for moving services!
                          Originally posted by Buzzo
                          Some dudes jump out of airplanes, I fuck hookers without condoms.

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                          • #15
                            Originally posted by GrayStangGT View Post
                            I have no problem with that ,dealers are clogging up the car/truck section with bs ads and make it more difficult to search.
                            Agreed..

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