Fast and Furious Paul Walker Dead?

[silverhatch]

I just read this in Mr Burns voice.

I read this in the voice of an albino midget with a hook for a hand and an overbite.

[Scott Mc]

Have we met? You described me perfectly.

[stevo]

I read this in the voice of an albino midget with a hook for a hand and an overbite.

Don?

Stevo

[jdgregory84]

If it doesn't fit your agenda then of course it doesn't make sense. Yes, you are being a hypocrite. Just too ignant to see it. You talk shit about someone's friend killing himself then cry when others talk shit about a movie star dying. "But he didn't chose to die." True, but he didn't have to get in the car, either.

Strrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeetch!!!!!!!!!

[SS Junk]

Strrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeetch!!!!!!!!!

To one who does not understand, absolutely.

[eastsidetorino]

Was it understeer followed by oversteer? Streets are totally different than tracks. Someone said its hard to believe a pro driver would make that kind of mistake but its a whole different world on the street. At high speed the power steering isn't doing much of anything. Most luxury cars have speed sensitive power steering which can completely cut off pressure to the rack at higher speeds.

IIRC, on top gear, they claimed the stig spun the Carrera GT 3 or 4 consecutive times before getting a good lap in. There are a number of videos online that make it look like driving on ice with bald tires, and driving that car at the limit are about the same experience.

[momo]

IIRC, on top gear, they claimed the stig spun the Carrera GT 3 or 4 consecutive times before getting a good lap in. There are a number of videos online that make it look like driving on ice with bald tires, and driving that car at the limit are about the same experience.

yup, that's the vibe i got form that episode.

from a carrera GT owner:

OK, I'm a Carrera GT owner with dozens of track events @ Putnam Park and Mid-Ohio in this car. I have many thousands of laps of experience at Mid-Ohio in Porsches and BMWs of all sorts. I completely understand the "difficult to master" reputation the CGT gets. I've spun it at both tracks with (fortunately) no ill effects. I made two changes to the as-delivered setup that calmed it way down for me.

1) I moved the rear anti-roll bar setting from "medium" to "soft" by changing the drop link position from the middle hole of the 3 available to the hole at the tip of the rear bar. This reduced the tendency to oversteer in my hands by a significant amount. By exactly how much? I was able to improve my track times by 4 to 5 seconds per lap with only this adjustment, nothing else.

In my non-expert opinion, the CGT seems to have been "optimized" for track quickness in the hands of drivers who don't mind running pretty high rear slip angles. If one observes typical side-force vs. slip-angle curves for modern tires, running a significant rear slip angle might help eek out a higher side force while right at the edge. For a driver used to the rear slip angle, it could be faster. For drivers used to driving 911s, that much greasy feeling at the rear starts alarm bells ringing and is not well tolerated. I didn't much like it. Maybe I'm a wus, but it's my experience in spirited driving that a touch of basic understeer leaves some "design margin" for use by the driver if something unexpected occurs.

I have no idea for what use the "tight" position of the rear bar was created. Drifting competitions?

2) I changed from the OEM Pilot Sport tires to Michelin Super Sports as soon as they were available in the USA. The OEM tires were quite temperature sensitive as street tires go. If they were not "up to temperature", they didn't have prodigious grip. After a few warm up laps at the track, they were pretty sticky when new. Driving to and from the track, they could be quite "interesting" if driven on cold roads.

Apparently, the special sizes of the CGT tires made them unprofitable to manufacture at regular intervals. After the initial production runs in 2004/2005, Michelin appeared not to make any more until 2008/2009 (judging by the sidewall markings). Every time I would buy "new" tires to replace those heat-cycled-at-the-track, they didn't seem to be any better than the degraded tires they replaced. Well, both sets were the same age and the "new" tires had been "pre-heat-cycled" by having been stored for years in a hot warehouse. The older they were, the less grippy they proved to be. "New" or not.

The Michelin Super Sport tire was a huge improvement. It is way less temperature sensitive and much better in the rain for transit legs to and from the track. They seem to be a few seconds faster at the track compared to freshly molded OEM tires. Recently, Porsche put them through their tire testing approval program and they are now available in "N0" certification. Some press accounts maintain that these tires alone have "transformed" the Carrera GT into an all time great handling car.

So, if a CGT hasn't had benefit of the rear bar adjustment and the fitting of Super Sport tires, it might deserve a more harsh description than most 600+ hp cars of its age. But, I love mine the way it is, now. One still must respect the power/weight ratio and its street-tire traction levels, but it is in no way dangerous to drive.

BTW, I had a brake-booster hydraulic pump failure occur in my car. It dribbled brake fluid onto the inside of the front carbon under trays, but it never reached the tires.

still... has to be one of my favorite cars ever.

[SC457A]

I can't even imagine what losing my father would be like under any circumstances. The guy is my hero.

These are the same thoughts I had. Why I defend his choice.

[Machx2]

Paul Walker's cause of death was revealed by the Los Angeles County Coroner's Office on Wednesday (Dec. 4).

The 40-year-old actor, who was in the passenger side of the Porsche Carrera GT, died of the combined effects of traumatic and thermal injuries, according to CNN. Roger Rodas, his friend and the driver, died of multiple traumatic injuries.

Thus, Walker did not die from the impact of the crash alone, TMZ noted.

Both deaths have been ruled an accident and toxicology reports are due within six to eight weeks.

Walker and Rodas' autopsies were completed Tuesday (Dec. 3). Release of the results was previously placed on a "security hold" until all information was collected and distributed to the media so as to prevent miscommunication.

The "Fast & Furious" actor died on Saturday (Nov. 30), when the car he was riding in crashed into a light pole and burst into flames in Valencia, Calif. The tragic accident occurred after the two left a fundraiser event held by Walker's charity, Reach Out Worldwide, to benefit the victims of the Philippines typhoon. The bodies were so badly burned they were only identifiable by dental records.

Speed may have been a factor in the crash, according to the L.A. Times, which occurred around 3:30 p.m. on Hercules Street, a block with a speed limit of 45 mph.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/04/paul-walker-cause-of-death_n_4385392.html

Yikes, so he could have been burned alive.

[idrivea4banger]

Fuck being burned alive.

[SS Junk]

If you watch the video of the two parking right across from the crash it looks as though there is a figure moving in the flames where an occupant's head would be.

[Snatch Napkin]

I really doubt he was burned alive.

IF he wasn't killed before the fire, he certainly wasn't aware of it.

[talisman]

I really doubt he was burned alive.

IF he wasn't killed before the fire, he certainly wasn't aware of it.

I have doubts about that based on personal experience man. I was fully aware and can to this day recall in minute details my car being upside down and coming to rest and everything that ensued. If it had caught fire I would have been completely aware of it, though I was lucid enough I think I would have been able to crawl out unless it was completely engulfed immediately. Just because it was a bad (possibly) high speed wreck doesn't mean he was unconscious.

[spederman]

Paul Walker's cause of death was revealed by the Los Angeles County Coroner's Office on Wednesday (Dec. 4).

The 40-year-old actor, who was in the passenger side of the Porsche Carrera GT, died of the combined effects of traumatic and thermal injuries, according to CNN. Roger Rodas, his friend and the driver, died of multiple traumatic injuries.

Thus, Walker did not die from the impact of the crash alone, TMZ noted.

Both deaths have been ruled an accident and toxicology reports are due within six to eight weeks.

Walker and Rodas' autopsies were completed Tuesday (Dec. 3). Release of the results was previously placed on a "security hold" until all information was collected and distributed to the media so as to prevent miscommunication.

The "Fast & Furious" actor died on Saturday (Nov. 30), when the car he was riding in crashed into a light pole and burst into flames in Valencia, Calif. The tragic accident occurred after the two left a fundraiser event held by Walker's charity, Reach Out Worldwide, to benefit the victims of the Philippines typhoon. The bodies were so badly burned they were only identifiable by dental records.

Speed may have been a factor in the crash, according to the L.A. Times, which occurred around 3:30 p.m. on Hercules Street, a block with a speed limit of 45 mph.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/04/paul-walker-cause-of-death_n_4385392.html

Yikes, so he could have been burned alive.

that's awful, nobody deserves being burned alive like that , RIP to both of them

[Sean88gt]

ME = Captain Obvious?