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  • Forever_frost
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    Originally posted by FATHERFORD View Post
    Do police just stand around and flirt with our receptionists and park on the 4th floor of the parking garages or in the back of the parking lot asleep all day?

    Then yes, they do look and sound like like police.
    If they double park while writing tickets for people double parking, speed through town while in normal clothes with their work uniform on a hanger in the back, holding a cup of coffee in one hand and a cell in the other, then they look like cops

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  • David
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    Neighborhood fires cops, hires private security

    Originally posted by Tannerm View Post
    Very true. And VERY frustrating. That isn't on our end. That's the DA's and shister defensive attorneys to thank for that. When a criminal u arrested is let off easy or given a weak bond/sentence, it hits us beat cops... We worked hard to find and put that individual in jail but only to let some smartass attorney (or dumbass DA) set em free. As a rookie cop, u learn quickly to not let that stuff bother too much... It happens a lot and u can't let that ruin ur day/week/month/year. Its almost comical what has to be said in front of a bunch a jurors to get them on the defense side or against the popo.
    No money to keep people locked up or space.

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  • FATHERFORD
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    Originally posted by Machx2 View Post
    Do they look and sound like police? Lol
    Do police just stand around and flirt with our receptionists and park on the 4th floor of the parking garages or in the back of the parking lot asleep all day?

    Then yes, they do look and sound like like police.

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  • ceyko
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    Originally posted by talisman View Post
    At my old condo there was always an off duty officer that did patrols, that we paid for in our dues. Most of the time his ass was fucking off in the rec room while my car was getting broken in to, or yelling at people to get out of the hot tub 15 minutes before the curfew for it. Worthless sacks of shit.
    I hear ya, and I know of companies that do apartment/residential security. The article did not indicate a private company or anything. It's made to sound like the police are charging extra for security.

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  • Machx2
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    Originally posted by FATHERFORD View Post
    Seal security is worthless.

    We use them at work. My business has used them for over a year and we still get at least 2-3 vehicles stolen a month from our parking lots. Not to mention the break ins.
    Do they look and sound like police? Lol

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  • FATHERFORD
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    Seal security is worthless.

    We use them at work. My business has used them for over a year and we still get at least 2-3 vehicles stolen a month from our parking lots. Not to mention the break ins.

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  • hustleman
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    Originally posted by Tannerm View Post
    Very true. And VERY frustrating. That isn't on our end. That's the DA's and shister defensive attorneys to thank for that. When a criminal u arrested is let off easy or given a weak bond/sentence, it hits us beat cops... We worked hard to find and put that individual in jail but only to let some smartass attorney (or dumbass DA) set em free. As a rookie cop, u learn quickly to not let that stuff bother too much... It happens a lot and u can't let that ruin ur day/week/month/year. Its almost comical what has to be said in front of a bunch a jurors to get them on the defense side or against the popo.

    AMEN!!! Yet we are the bad guys. Oh well, I still love my job and do what I can.

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  • Tannerm
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    Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
    Problem is, outside of pissing off a cop, jail is a revolving door. You have repeat offenders that get popped and then released before the papers are done.
    Very true. And VERY frustrating. That isn't on our end. That's the DA's and shister defensive attorneys to thank for that. When a criminal u arrested is let off easy or given a weak bond/sentence, it hits us beat cops... We worked hard to find and put that individual in jail but only to let some smartass attorney (or dumbass DA) set em free. As a rookie cop, u learn quickly to not let that stuff bother too much... It happens a lot and u can't let that ruin ur day/week/month/year. Its almost comical what has to be said in front of a bunch a jurors to get them on the defense side or against the popo.

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  • Tannerm
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    Originally posted by stevo View Post
    While I agree with the stops picking up drunks, etc, I still do not see how that stops most real crimes from happening- robbery, rape, murder, etc. And as I said, the crooks/thieves that have warrants have already committed the crimes, the traffic stop didn't retroactively stop their crimes, it is only cleaning up after the fact.

    An ounch of prevention is worth a pound of cure, I would think those cops would deter more crime by being a presence in neighborhoods and such, but what do I know.



    I've seen what DPD and the metroplex officers do to the mentally ill there, I'll keep my crazy fat ass in east Texas.

    Stevo
    Lol suit urself! I ain't no DPD. I treat mentally ill fat asses with kindness and respect. I share my donuts with them.

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  • stevo
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    Originally posted by Tannerm View Post
    Not exactly. Warrants happen quite a bit but u have to remember, there's other stuff u goto jail for. Smell weed? PC to search with possibility of jail time. Looks drunk? Do sfst, possibility of dwi. See tools that were or can be used in a burglary, suspect has a criminal history of burglary, and there super nervous, arrest for traffic violation. So u see? We get a lot of arrests off stuff other then warrants. Also, you'd be surprised how effective seeing a few patrol cars stopped with traffic stops. That is a great deterrent in itself.
    And also, aloooooot of crook/thieves have a warrant of some sort. Either from unpaid traffic tickets to to more serious warrants like burglary, robbery, theft etc.
    While I agree with the stops picking up drunks, etc, I still do not see how that stops most real crimes from happening- robbery, rape, murder, etc. And as I said, the crooks/thieves that have warrants have already committed the crimes, the traffic stop didn't retroactively stop their crimes, it is only cleaning up after the fact.

    An ounch of prevention is worth a pound of cure, I would think those cops would deter more crime by being a presence in neighborhoods and such, but what do I know.

    Originally posted by Tannerm View Post
    Stevo I still owe u a ride along. Once I don't have any rookies to train, we shall do this!
    I've seen what DPD and the metroplex officers do to the mentally ill there, I'll keep my crazy fat ass in east Texas.

    Stevo

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  • Forever_frost
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    Problem is, outside of pissing off a cop, jail is a revolving door. You have repeat offenders that get popped and then released before the papers are done.

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  • Tannerm
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    Originally posted by stevo View Post
    Aren't nearly all of those criminals that have already been caught and/or identified previously, and are arrested for warrants? It wouldn't seem to be a crime deterrent to me, just a clean-up after the fact.

    Stevo
    Not exactly. Warrants happen quite a bit but u have to remember, there's other stuff u goto jail for. Smell weed? PC to search with possibility of jail time. Looks drunk? Do sfst, possibility of dwi. See tools that were or can be used in a burglary, suspect has a criminal history of burglary, and there super nervous, arrest for traffic violation. So u see? We get a lot of arrests off stuff other then warrants. Also, you'd be surprised how effective seeing a few patrol cars stopped with traffic stops. That is a great deterrent in itself.
    And also, aloooooot of crook/thieves have a warrant of some sort. Either from unpaid traffic tickets to to more serious warrants like burglary, robbery, theft etc.
    Stevo I still owe u a ride along. Once I don't have any rookies to train, we shall do this!
    Last edited by Tannerm; 10-27-2013, 03:35 PM.

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  • stevo
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    Originally posted by talisman View Post
    Cops catch more criminals for traffic violations than any other way. It's unfortunately effective. On the other hand, most of time I get stopped for something stupid like that these days, I end up with a warning after they check me out. I frankly drive like a maniac most of the time and can't even remember the last time I got a ticket. I'd bet I've gotten out of more tickets than I've been cited for, and I've been pulled over probably around 30 times, many of them with multiple violations possible and no ticket given. I would like to see a complete end to traffic enforcement divisions with the possible exception to help during events though. The only time cops should be running radar is if there have been multiple complaints from a specific area or they are in between calls with nothing better to do.
    Aren't nearly all of those criminals that have already been caught and/or identified previously, and are arrested for warrants? It wouldn't seem to be a crime deterrent to me, just a clean-up after the fact.

    Stevo

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  • talisman
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    Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
    Or, you could pull the guys writing tickets for no plates or 5 over and put them on foot patrol. Afterall, if they have the free time to sit on the side of the highway with a radar gun, they have the time to walk a neighborhood

    Cops catch more criminals for traffic violations than any other way. It's unfortunately effective. On the other hand, most of time I get stopped for something stupid like that these days, I end up with a warning after they check me out. I frankly drive like a maniac most of the time and can't even remember the last time I got a ticket. I'd bet I've gotten out of more tickets than I've been cited for, and I've been pulled over probably around 30 times, many of them with multiple violations possible and no ticket given. I would like to see a complete end to traffic enforcement divisions with the possible exception to help during events though. The only time cops should be running radar is if there have been multiple complaints from a specific area or they are in between calls with nothing better to do.

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  • stevo
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    Originally posted by naynay View Post
    So if I'm reading this correctly, not a single one of you even knows what is going on in this story.
    Sounds like you and the Trayvon case.

    Stevo

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