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    WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department and federal banking regulators will help clear the way for financial institutions to transact business with the legitimate marijuana industry without fear of prosecution, Deputy Attorney General James Cole told Congress on Tuesday.

    The issue has taken on greater urgency now that Colorado and Washington have become the first states to legalize recreational use of marijuana.

    Currently, processing money from marijuana sales puts federally insured banks at risk of drug racketeering charges.

    Because of the threat of criminal prosecution, financial institutions often refuse to let marijuana-related businesses open accounts. The problem occurs in states that have laws permitting medical use of marijuana. In 1996, California voters made their state the first to allow medical use, and 19 more states and the District of Columbia have enacted similar laws.

    In an appearance before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Cole said the absence of banking services is one that "we need to deal with" and that "we're working on it."

    The congressional hearing was the first since the administration announced a new, more permissive enforcement policy. On Aug. 29, the Justice Department said it won't try to stop Colorado and Washington state from legalizing recreational marijuana use as long as they implement strong enforcement systems. Marijuana is an illegal drug under federal law.

    At the hearing that highlighted the conflict between state and federal law on marijuana, Cole told the committee that "there are no perfect solutions here. ... We're at the point we're trying to find the best of the imperfect solutions before us."

    Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., said that as a result of the banking constraints, legitimate marijuana businesses are operating on a cash-only basis and "that's a prescription for problems, tax evasion" and other criminal activity. Cole agreed and said there is a public safety component to the problem because the cash-only business can result in the presence of guns.

    In 2011, American Express announced it would no longer handle medical marijuana-related transactions because of fear of federal prosecution. A month later, Cole gave banks an explicit directive on medical marijuana that stated: "Those who engage in transactions involving the proceeds of such activity may also be in violation of federal money laundering statutes and other federal financing laws."

    Leahy, who spent eight years as a prosecutor early in his career, said the Justice Department should focus on prosecuting violent crime and should respect the votes in Colorado and Washington to legalize small amounts of marijuana for personal and medical use.

    Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley, the committee's top Republican and co-chairman of the Senate Caucus on International Narcotics Control, said the Justice Department is "giving the green light" to an industry bent on breaking federal law.

    Grassley said that Colorado has seen a sharp uptick in diversion of marijuana from Colorado to other states and increased use among minors.

    "I understand the skepticism that you come to it with," Cole told Grassley. "We have reserved, quite explicitly, the right to go in" and challenge the regulatory programs of Colorado and Washington.

    Grassley asked what the Justice Department plans to do to protect states like Iowa from marijuana being diverted from states like Colorado. Cole responded, "If it's being exported from Colorado to Iowa and we find out about it, we will prosecute."

    With the door to legalization open in two states, others could follow.

    The 20,000-member Marijuana Policy Project says it will support efforts to end marijuana prohibition in 10 more states by 2017.

    In a harshly worded letter to Holder this week, nine former Drug Enforcement Administration chiefs predicted that "when marijuana will be fully legal to buy, diversion of the drug will explode."

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    If I remember right, September 1st was when the state was going to start taking applications to become growers / distributors (packagers or processors, like for the extracts and shit) / retailers up there. Then on Jan 1st is when they are supposed to actually be able to start operating. You can hold two of the three licenses but nobody can grow, process / distribute, and sell retail.

    I read most of the applicable laws and rules a couple of months ago and based on what I read, they did a pretty good job of organizing it all.

    One thing that stood out as seeming funny is that part of the law says you cannot give pot away. I understand why they set that up that way, but it just struck me as silly. You can possess and buy it, but you cannot give it away.

    Edit -I am talking about WA above, BTW.. Have not looked at the CO laws, I just looked at WA because I have family up there.
    Last edited by Chili; 09-11-2013, 12:18 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Chili View Post

      One thing that stood out as seeming funny is that part of the law says you cannot give pot away. I understand why they set that up that way, but it just struck me as silly. You can possess and buy it, but you cannot give it away.

      People better think twice before passing a joint around!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by talisman View Post
        People better think twice before passing a joint around!
        Haha.. Well, you can't smoke in public, so nobody would ever know if it puff-puff-pass action was occurring.

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        • #5
          legit, defining legit as taxed (government gets part of the take)?

          Its so humorous to me how 'labeling' or 'naming' something for political/biz correctness can shift paradigms and opinions

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          • #6
            Originally posted by talisman View Post
            People better think twice before passing a joint around!
            LOL. Criminal Conspiracy!!! Organized Criminal Activity!!!

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            • #7
              so they can use banks finally?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Josh.0 View Post
                so they can use banks finally?
                Well, the article says they're "working on it", so if not now, soon. I would imagine some banks may be hesitant to do it themselves until something is actually on the books exempting them.

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                • #9
                  Does anybody know where I can score a joint? Been a stressful day

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by QIK46 View Post
                    Does anybody know where I can score a joint? Been a stressful day
                    Any local high school / jr. high?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by talisman View Post
                      People better think twice before passing a joint around!
                      Actually, in CO, it's legal for a person 21 and up to give away up to an ounce to another person 21 and up. If you take any money for it, it's illegal. Only the licensed place especially can legally sell it, and the recreational retail shops are expected to start up in January. They have to apply, be approved, and pay a fee for the license and then have to follow strict regulations. Still, this is huge. People are comparing this to Amsterdam, but the new CO laws are actually much more lenient than anything in the Netherlands.

                      Just did a bunch of reading on the laws since I am in CO this week and want to be a model citizen.

                      So I can legally hold up to 2 oz, smoke it all I want in private, and grow up to 6 plants behind closed doors, but I can't share I with any minors, use it in public, or drive on it. Thank you, CO. How can anyone be against this?

                      Even though I plan to just move to CO eventually, anyway (not for the weed), I sincerely hope Texas and other states wake the fuck up and get on board with this in my lifetime. I think they will.

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