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    Some short-term loan services look at your online social profile to decide if you'd be a risky borrower.


    Choose your Facebook friends wisely; they could help you get approved -- or rejected -- for a loan.
    A handful of tech startups are using social data to determine the risk of lending to people who have a difficult time accessing credit. Traditional lenders rely heavily on credit scores like FICO, which look at payments history. They typically steer clear of the millions of people who don't have credit scores.

    But some financial lending companies have found that social connections can be a good indicator of a person's creditworthiness.
    One such company, Lenddo, determines if you're friends on Facebook (FB) with someone who was late paying back a loan to Lenddo. If so, that's bad news for you. It's even worse news if the delinquent friend is someone you frequently interact with.

    "It turns out humans are really good at knowing who is trustworthy and reliable in their community," said Jeff Stewart, a co-founder and CEO of Lenddo. "What's new is that we're now able to measure through massive computing power."
    Related story: Millions without credit scores not so risky after all

    A German company called Kreditech says that it uses up to 8,000 data points when assessing an application for a loan.
    In addition to data from Facebook, eBay or Amazon (AMZN, Fortune 500) accounts. Kreditech also gathers information from the manner in which a customer fills out the online application. For example, your chances of getting a loan improve if you spend time reading information about the loan on Kreditech's website. If you fill out the application typing in all-caps (or with no caps), you're knocked down a couple pegs in Kreditech's eyes.

    Kreditech can determines your location and considers creditworthiness based upon whether your computer is located where you said you live or work.
    The individual data points may not have meaning themselves, but can paint an good picture of the applicant when brought together, said Sebastian Diemer, a co-founder of Kreditech.

    Another company, Kabbage, an online service that offers cash advances to small businesses, considers an owner's FICO score -- but only as one piece of a larger pie.
    "We can get much better, faster data," said Marc Gorlin, Kabbage's chairman and co-founder.

    Borrowers grant Kabbage access to their PayPal, eBay (EBAY, Fortune 500) and other online payment accounts, disclosing real-time sales and delivery information. The company says it can determine a business' creditworthiness and put money into its account in just seven minutes.

    Once a small business is getting credit from Kabbage, it also has the option to link up its Facebook and Twitter accounts to the site, which could provide a bump in its "Kabbage score." The small businesses that do are 20% less likely to be delinquent on their loans, Gorlin said.

    "Someone who's paying attention to Facebook and Twitter channels to deal with customer service is more likely to be on top of other parts of their business, too, like inventory and shipments," he said.

    For now, many of these tech startups attract a niche group of borrowers. Kabbage targets small business owners who sell products online. Lenddo and Kreditech target middle-class individuals in emerging markets where credit is tight.

    Lenddo has about 250,000 members, but it only operates in the Philippines, Columbia and Mexico. But others are larger in scope: Kreditech says it receives 1,000 applications per day and gives 10 million loans each year. Kabbage expects to provide 75,000 cash advances this year, ranging between $500 and $50,000 -- that's three times as many loans that the U.S. Small Business Administration gave last year.

    Using "big data" to assess credit risk is on the verge of going mainstream. Kreditech has already began selling its technology to national online lenders in Russia and the Czech Republic. Gorlin said he hopes Kabbage will move into that space for lenders as well.

    Some in the financial industry are skeptical about social data and online behavior being used as a kind of credit score. John Ulzheimer, a credit expert at CreditSesame.com, says social data aren't necessarily indicative of whether the borrower will pay back a loan on time. FICO only considers a handful of factors, but they are all "incredibly predictive of risk," Ulzheimer said.

    There's also the potential to game the system. Consumers can easily control how many Facebook friends they have and tweets they write. The same cannot be said for what goes into their credit score.
    "To me, using social media is a little bit dangerous," Ulzheimer said. To top of page
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  • #2
    So I just need to ditch all my current friends and then befriend Bill Gates an I'm good to go? LoL

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    • #3
      And why does anyone still have facebook? Is way beyond me.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by 01vnms4v View Post
        And why does anyone still have facebook? Is way beyond me.
        How old are you?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by 01vnms4v View Post
          And why does anyone still have facebook? Is way beyond me.
          Originally posted by Magnus View Post
          How old are you?
          Never had it dont want it. 31

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sleeper View Post
            Never had it dont want it. 31
            I agree completely.
            "It's another burrito, it's a cold Lone Star in my hand!"

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            • #7
              Don't do Facebook myself so my credit score should be safe and sound.

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              • #8
                fuch a bunch a FB
                "PSH!!!"

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Stephen View Post
                  fuch a bunch a FB
                  Yup, right up in their ass!

                  Anyone that uses it, always has more drama in their life than someone who doesn't. I have just recently purged myself of friends and family that are nothing but drama and my life has gotten significantly better and I sure as hell don't need that bullshit fucking up my credit score...
                  Originally posted by Silverback
                  Look all you want, she can't find anyone else who treats her as bad as I do, and I keep her self esteem so low, she wouldn't think twice about going anywhere else.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Rick Modena View Post

                    Anyone that uses it, always has more drama in their life than someone who doesn't.
                    That isn't true at all. These anti Facebook people always crack me up. This board is the same damn thing.
                    Originally posted by BradM
                    But, just like condoms and women's rights, I don't believe in them.
                    Originally posted by Leah
                    In other news: Brent's meat melts in your mouth.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by bcoop View Post
                      That isn't true at all. These anti Facebook people always crack me up. This board is the same damn thing.
                      Not really unless you make yourself known.. Also this is a much smaller community than FB. I don't have ppl trying to friend me that I sat next to in English in 7th grade here.
                      "PSH!!!"

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by bcoop View Post
                        That isn't true at all. These anti Facebook people always crack me up. This board is the same damn thing.
                        Aside from missing some kickass parties, I don't miss anything.

                        I don't see how, I don't have any of my family members here. And I wouldn't tell them anyway. Everyone I know that has FB always runs into drama. You could be the exception, but I wouldn't know cause I don't FB with you...
                        Originally posted by Silverback
                        Look all you want, she can't find anyone else who treats her as bad as I do, and I keep her self esteem so low, she wouldn't think twice about going anywhere else.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Stephen View Post
                          I don't have ppl trying to friend me that I sat next to in English in 7th grade here.
                          Exactly, I don't care to see anyone that I knew in grade, middle or high school. If I'm not friends with them now, why would I want to be friends with them now. People that are in my rearview are there for a reason and I don't need them in the here and now or care too.
                          Originally posted by Silverback
                          Look all you want, she can't find anyone else who treats her as bad as I do, and I keep her self esteem so low, she wouldn't think twice about going anywhere else.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Rick Modena View Post
                            Exactly, I don't care to see anyone that I knew in grade, middle or high school. If I'm not friends with them now, why would I want to be friends with them now. People that are in my rearview are there for a reason and I don't need them in the here and now or care too.

                            You realize you don't have to accept friend requests, right? Brent hit the nail on the head.

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                            • #15
                              I guess I don't want people knowing certain things about me. I enjoy what little privacy I have left. If I need to contact you, Paul, Big Matt, Marty, Jose, etc. I'll send a text or make a call.
                              Originally posted by Silverback
                              Look all you want, she can't find anyone else who treats her as bad as I do, and I keep her self esteem so low, she wouldn't think twice about going anywhere else.

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