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  • Dealing with Cops These Days . . .In a word – don't.

    Not if you can help it.

    Officer Friendly is a fiction – a vicious fable sold to schoolkids – who soon learn in one way or another that any interaction with a cop is a likely to be a bad interaction. You are dealing with perhaps the worst possible tag-team combination: Someone with legal power over you who is held to a different – and far more lenient – standard than you are. And therefore, you are dealing with a person who is much more likely to do things – not nice things – than you or I or any other person sans special costume and badge might be inclined to do. After all – why not? Especially if one is a bully – or an outright sadist – and the cop profession attracts exactly that type precisely because of the nature of the work. In its own way, giving a bully a badge is like giving a fat kid free reign at the candy store. Expecting him not to eat is almost silly.

    Do not engage them in conversation. They will view any questioning of their authority as a provocation. Answer – if you must – in a flat monotone. Yes. No. Am I free to go?

    Do not look to them for help.

    Look upon cops in the same way a scuba diver does the sharks of the ocean. Both are opportunistic predators who can strike unpredictably, with devastating consequences. By exercising hypervigilance – and never making the mistake of thinking either is anything other than an opportunistic predator, one can minimize greatly the chances of becoming chum.


    You can't trust cops to be fair or even decent. Therefore, it's smart to avoid them whenever you possibly can.

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    • #3
      good advice! ive had officers pretend to be on your side only to stab you in the back as soon as they are gone. it depends on the situation but most of the time you must fight the law with the law.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Theodore Roosevelt
        It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming...

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        • #5
          I have had nothing but positive experiences with police lately. I was at the shop on a weekend a while back and the alarm in an adjacent building apparently went off. A few police officers came over and asked if I had heard anything and told me that there was a smash and grab next door where the criminals stole TVs, computers, and the like.
          It was a Sunday at about 2 or something so naturally I had a beer in my hand. They were all roughly my age and the three males asked if they could walk around and check out the cars, while the female and I discovered that we share a last name, lol. I gave them all a tour and jokingly offered them all a beer but they said if an alarm ever goes off here at the shop they will be sure to throw their vehicles in gear and get their asses over asap!

          Police have also thwarted many thefts from us and when we had a client list stolen (LEO client list) they sent over several detectives and there was supposed to be a ransom drop with my dad, a case of money, etc. so the police had a vest on my old man, and shooters on an adjacent building. Our family was also threatened so they watched our house at night. Guy at the drop chickened out and it turned out to be an employee of like 20 years who backstabbed us.

          I have also found that the older I get, the less dickish I perceive police officers to be.
          Originally posted by lincolnboy
          After watching Games of Thrones, makes me glad i was not born in those years.

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          • #6
            All that shit is true. There are quite a few of us here that have seen it and dealt with these assholes. They have lied to my face, I have heard them lie in a court of law with my own ears and after I witnessed it with my own eyes. Most of them don't care about the law and abuse it with impunity.

            In my opinion it seems that some of these guys go in with the intention of trying to uphold the law, but what happens is that most of the time they deal with the scum of the earth and forget that there are humans in society that are decent, law abiding and pay the taxes that are automatically deducted from our personal ledgers. I for one live by most all of that article and preach it to anyone that is close to me that I care about...
            Originally posted by Silverback
            Look all you want, she can't find anyone else who treats her as bad as I do, and I keep her self esteem so low, she wouldn't think twice about going anywhere else.

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            • #7
              Texas DPS gave me a warning in Wichita Falls again about 2 weeks ago coming back from Bonneville. Woot!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by talisman View Post
                Texas DPS gave me a warning in Wichita Falls again about 2 weeks ago coming back from Bonneville. Woot!
                Yeah, well fuck you too!
                Originally posted by Silverback
                Look all you want, she can't find anyone else who treats her as bad as I do, and I keep her self esteem so low, she wouldn't think twice about going anywhere else.

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                • #9
                  Only way to beat the system, is to stay out of the system.

                  Always be respectful to police officers.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Rick Modena View Post
                    All that shit is true. There are quite a few of us here that have seen it and dealt with these assholes. They have lied to my face, I have heard them lie in a court of law with my own ears and after I witnessed it with my own eyes. Most of them don't care about the law and abuse it with impunity.

                    In my opinion it seems that some of these guys go in with the intention of trying to uphold the law, but what happens is that most of the time they deal with the scum of the earth and forget that there are humans in society that are decent, law abiding and pay the taxes that are automatically deducted from our personal ledgers. I for one live by most all of that article and preach it to anyone that is close to me that I care about...
                    most? Seems pretty harsh, I know several that aren't that way, and yet don't know any that are that way.

                    I've had plenty of questionable experiences with LEO's back when I was a kid. I lived in a "known drug house" and got the 3rd degree anytime I was out in my truck or pulled over, etc. It's not paranoia when they really are out to get you.

                    I didn't get it at first, and then I had one of the better cops fill me in ( I went to school with his daughter, so he had some background on me and my situation) as to why I was in cuffs for breathing wrong all the time. I got pulled over on the way to school frequently. Cops came into my after school retail job looking for me. It didn’t help that I shared a name with my father, so my plates on my truck would flag for him. After a few of the local PD's finest figured out that I wasn’t involved, they let up on me a bit. It also pull into parking lots when cops would get behind me, since they were going to light me up when the plates came back. That was either met with a good response (they knew I wasn’t running or hiding anything) or a really bad response. Two weeks after my 16th birthday I was on the ground at gunpoint in my front yard for having a headlamp out. They were both working when I was allowed back up, though.

                    Now I have a bit of respect for the jobs that they are trying to do, and give them some slack. They have a pretty tough job, most of the time when they are talking to people those folks are in a bad mood, there's that chance they will try to kill them, etc. I'm not defending the bad ones, by any means. IMHO the good ones outnumber the bad ones, but get the stigma attached to them as well.
                    "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SSMAN View Post
                      Only way to beat the system, is to stay out of the system.

                      Always be respectful to police officers.
                      This right here. Now, the only time in my personal life dealing with them has been traffic stops. I have only hd one speeding ticket in my life. The other times I was sent on with a warning. Courtesy and being respectful go a long way.

                      In my work environments (retail) I have dealt with many in regards to shoplifting. Again, conduct yourself as a respectful individual and it goes a LONG way. If you are in a position where the law is trying to put the screws to you, then you have made previous decisions in life that were/are going to haunt you anyway!

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                      Originally posted by Leah
                      Best balls I've had in my mouth in a while.

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                      • #12
                        If you don't like police that is fine. Just be sure to remember that if and when your finger is about to that last number 1 digit.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by hustleman View Post
                          If you don't like police that is fine. Just be sure to remember that if and when your finger is about to that last number 1 digit.
                          I was sitting here trying to remember the last time I hit 911. I can't seem to ever recall dialing that number. I can and will use my index finger on one of my weapons to help myself though.
                          Originally posted by Silverback
                          Look all you want, she can't find anyone else who treats her as bad as I do, and I keep her self esteem so low, she wouldn't think twice about going anywhere else.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Rick Modena View Post
                            I was sitting here trying to remember the last time I hit 911. I can't seem to ever recall dialing that number. I can and will use my index finger on one of my weapons to help myself though.
                            Honestly, I love that mentality

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                            • #15
                              I avoid them at all costs.

                              In ninth grade, I was pulled out of class and taken to the principal's office because a K9 "alerted" on my locker. They called my mother and waited for her to arrive before the disgusted cop and the principal escorted us to my locker and began digging through it. The cocksucker used a magnifying glass to sift through pencil shavings at the bottom of the locker to find the drugs I was apparently "suspected" of having. Of course they found nothing, so after a pretty embarrassing search I was "let go."

                              Ever since then I've had no encounter with a cop that I consider beneficial to me, so I just keep my distance. I know they do a public service and I know they aren't "all bad." But just like the shark analogy, the only two outcomes a civilian will have with a cop is to either be left alone, or get fucked.
                              When the government pays, the government controls.

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