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    A Florida couple is alleging that police climbed through a window into their home without a search warrant and shot their dogs.

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    Logo of the Escambia County Sheriff’s Office. (Image via Wikimedia)
    The Pensacola News Journal reported the incident occurred Sunday around 10:30 p.m. when deputies entered the home of 22-year-old Travis Nicholas and 32-year-old Cristina Moses. Nicholas and Moses were awoken by the noise and handcuffed. During the incident, their two dogs were shot, with one officer claiming he had been bitten. One of the dogs was euthanized later as a result of the shooting.

    The Escambia County Sheriff’s Office said Tuesday that the officers were investigating an earlier case of aggravated assault. In looking for a second suspect, statements from the assault victim and witnesses led deputies to the home where they found one window open while all others were closed.

    “An upside-down bucket has been placed beneath the open window with a footprint on it, indicating possible unlawful entry,” a sheriff’s office press release stated, noting that the officers made repeated attempts to have someone open the door.

    When those efforts were not successful, the deputies entered the house through the open window.

    The sheriff’s office said that upon entering the home, two pit bulls became aggressive, with one biting a deputy’s leg. He shot the dog when it came at him a second time. At this point the second dog ran toward the officer, which prompted him to shoot this dog as well.

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    This was one of the couple’s dogs that was shot and then euthanized with little chance of survival and in pain. (Image: YouTube screenshot)

    The Pensacola News Journal presented more details about what might have happened: Earlier that day man named Wayde Morris was arrested for aggravated assault after allegedly coming at his ex-girlfriend and her father with a baseball bat and machete. A second suspect identified as “Travis” had reportedly pointed a gun at people. It is this second person that police were on the hunt for Sunday night.

    Fast-forward to when Nicholas and Moses were awoken by police at their bedroom door. The couple stated that they didn’t hear knocking on their front door, and it wasn’t until the police were inside their home that the dogs alerted them to their presence.

    “I opened the door, and there were six police officers pointing guns at me and flashlights, saying ‘Show me your hands. Get on the ground,’” Moses told the News Journal.

    Moses stated that Nicholas was then dragged into the hallway.

    A YouTube video shows the couple being interviewed after the incident.

    “I couldn’t see them. I didn’t know if they were dead all the way or what,” Moses said of her dogs. “All I know is that they shot my dog and then they drug us outside, handcuffed us and put us on the curb.”

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    Blood from the injured dogs can be seen on the walls of the home. (Image: YouTube screenshot)
    After the dogs were taken to a vet, the doctor assessed one of the dogs as having only about a 4 percent chance of living with a surgery that would cost about $10,000, Moses said beginning to choke up.

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    Cristina Moses as she spoke about her dogs being shot and having to later euthanize one. (Image: YouTube screenshot)
    “They asked me if I wanted to humanely euthanize her so that she wouldn’t hurt anymore,” Moses said, wiping her tears. “And after thinking about it for a few minutes, I decided to go ahead to sign the paperwork to euthanize her.”

    “I’m frustrated because this could have been prevented,” Moses continued later. “These dogs never had lunged or bitten anyone ever. [...] I feel like my child has died.”

    Watch the interview:



    The News Journal reported that the officers did not have a search warrant, but noted that entering a home without a warrant is permissible if there is probable cause, such as fearing someone is in danger or that a suspect could escape.

    The News Journal reported Nicholas denying even owning a gun. Neither Nicholas nor Moses had been charged as of Wednesday.

    While the incident is under review, the deputies involved continue administrative duty.

    (H/T: Reddit)

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  • #2
    Why would that house be identified as holding the suspect?

    Seriously, a bucket with a footprint?

    If they tried the front door several times, why wouldn't the dogs have barked sooner?

    My dogs will absolutely bite a stranger sneaking into my house. Any dog worth a shit would. But mine also go apeshit when someone's at the door.

    I have a really hard time believing the cops' side of the story here. Just seems completely made up.

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    • #3
      Sometimes the dogs are asleep and don't hear things. Some days my dogs are at the door the moment someone pulls through the front gates and other times they have to knock to get attention
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      • #4
        Or the "suspect" is in the back keeping the dogs calm, hoping that the cops will go away.

        The Escambia County Sheriff’s Office said Tuesday that the officers were investigating an earlier case of aggravated assault. In looking for a second suspect, statements from the assault victim and witnesses led deputies to the home where they found one window open while all others were closed.
        They didn't just pick the house based on a hunch, and apparently had good reason to believe that a gun-wielding assailant was inside, possibly endangering other lives. I've got mixed feelings on this one, but I'm definitely not on the FTP bandwagon at this point.

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        • #5
          That is why both my dogs sleep in the same room as the wife and I every night, and there is a giant baby gate keeping them from leaving our room.

          They are shelties, so they have outstanding hearing. If somebody is breaking in to my house, LEO or not, they will have a 1911 aimed at them before my dogs even have a chance to charge the gate.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Big A View Post
            Or the "suspect" is in the back keeping the dogs calm, hoping that the cops will go away.

            They didn't just pick the house based on a hunch, and apparently had good reason to believe that a gun-wielding assailant was inside, possibly endangering other lives. I've got mixed feelings on this one, but I'm definitely not on the FTP bandwagon at this point.
            But they didn't find the suspect. I'm not sure if I believe that the claim that someone pointed them to the house. I'm pretty skeptical about the whole bucket and footprint thing. But I suppose both of those could be possible. I definitely don't believe that they made repeated attempts to have someone answer the door and the people and dogs just slept through it.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jluv View Post
              But they didn't find the suspect.
              Could be purely coincidental, but Travis denying that he owns a gun doesn't mean anything imo, of course he's going to say that if he's in possession of an illegal firearm. No charges were filed because he was smart enough not to have the gun there, and possibly they have witnesses that are unwilling to testify. Too many holes all around to yell FTP just yet.

              when deputies entered the home of 22-year-old Travis Nicholas and 32-year-old Cristina Moses. Nicholas and Moses were awoken by the noise and handcuffed.
              A second suspect identified as “Travis” had reportedly pointed a gun at people. It is this second person that police were on the hunt for Sunday night.

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              • #8
                Innocent until proven guilty.
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                • #9
                  If I'm awoken by the sound of gunfire, whatever perpetrated said gunfire will be met with the same. My .300blk pistol is beside my bed and if someone is in my house uninvited...they are catching lead. I don't care who they are. Shoot my dog, then identify yourself as police? You're probably still getting shot....my dog is better than you in my eyes. Not trying to be an E-badass or anything...it's just how things would likely play out.

                  Have there been any cases where police have raided the wrong house and were shot as a result? All I know is I have a gun(s) and spare mag(s) within arms reach at all times. If someone kicked in the door or attempted to come through a window they are getting lead with a quickness.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Brandon-k View Post
                    Not trying to be an E-badass or anything...it's just how things would likely play out.
                    Yes you are...no it's not.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Big A View Post
                      Yes you are...no it's not.
                      Cool opinion. Glad you got to express it. Have we met? Oh that's right...we haven't and you don't know a thing about me. Take your uninformed opinion and shove it up your ass cowboy. It will be better received there.

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                      • #12
                        You know because bad guys entering a house have never called out "Police" to get someone to disarm
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by jluv View Post
                          Why would that house be identified as holding the suspect?

                          Seriously, a bucket with a footprint?

                          If they tried the front door several times, why wouldn't the dogs have barked sooner?

                          My dogs will absolutely bite a stranger sneaking into my house. Any dog worth a shit would. But mine also go apeshit when someone's at the door.

                          I have a really hard time believing the cops' side of the story here. Just seems completely made up.
                          My dogs don't make a sound when someone knocks on my door. You don't know they are there till the door is open. It usually shocks people when there are 60lb dogs looking at them when I open the door. So I can believe that side of the story, just because your dogs make noise doesn't mean every bodies dogs do

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by blownaltered View Post
                            My dogs don't make a sound when someone knocks on my door. You don't know they are there till the door is open. It usually shocks people when there are 60lb dogs looking at them when I open the door. So I can believe that side of the story, just because your dogs make noise doesn't mean every bodies dogs do
                            That really sucks. Did you train them to be that way? My dogs are the best alarm system I could have. I can't imagine having dogs that weren't.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by jluv View Post
                              My dogs are the best alarm system I could have. I can't imagine having dogs that weren't.
                              No kidding. Mine goes ape shit if anyone is on the property, walking down the sidewalk, etc. I even git a loud low growl if someone walks down the other side of the street. I've got a J swing driveway, and may the spaghetti monster have mercy on anyone that winds up behind my house if I'm not home. I don't think the windows are strong enough to stop him. He's nearly gone through them multiple times.
                              Originally posted by BradM
                              But, just like condoms and women's rights, I don't believe in them.
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                              In other news: Brent's meat melts in your mouth.

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