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  • #61
    And I thought this week's what-if was morbid.
    Originally posted by Broncojohnny
    HOORAY ME and FUCK YOU!

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    • #62
      Some interesting news on the Fukushima nuclear disaster site.

      A new technology will give engineers three-dimensional images of the stricken plant’s reactor cores and detect damaged fuel behind feet of steel and concrete.


      A particle that barely ranks as a footnote in a physics text may be about to lift the cleanup of the stricken Fukushima Daiichi nuclear complex in Japan over a crucial obstacle.

      Inside the complex, there are three wrecked reactor cores, twisted masses of hundreds of tons of highly radioactive uranium, plutonium, cesium and strontium. After the meltdown, which followed a tsunami and earthquake in 2011, most of the material in the plant’s reactors resolidified, in difficult shapes and in confined spaces, wrapped around and through the structural parts of the reactors and the buildings.

      Or at least, that is what the engineers think. Nobody really knows, because nobody has yet examined many of the most important parts of the wreckage. Though three and a half years have passed, it is still too dangerous to climb inside for a look, and sending in a camera would risk more leaks. Engineers do not have enough data to even run a computer model that could tell them how much of the reactor cores are intact and how much of them melted, because the measurement systems inside the buildings were out of commission for days after the accident.

      And though the buildings may be leaking, they were built of concrete and steel so thick that there is no hope of using X-rays or other conventional imaging technology to scan the wreckage from a safe distance.

      To clean up the reactors, special tools must be custom-made, according to Duncan W. McBranch, the chief technology officer at Los Alamos National Laboratory, and the tools “can be much better designed if you had a good idea of what’s inside.” But “nobody knows what happened inside,” he said. “Nobody wants to go in to find out.”

      That is where muons come in.

      In the next few days, Toshiba, the contractor in charge of the initial cleanup work, and the laboratory expect to sign a formal agreement to deploy a new technology that experts believe will yield three-dimensional images of the wrecked reactor cores, and will be able to differentiate the uranium and plutonium from other materials, even when 10 feet of concrete and steel are in the way.

      The Energy Department has been working on the technology for years, and already licenses it in a less advanced form for a more limited job: A Virginia company is using it in a device that screens shipping containers for smuggled uranium or plutonium that could be used in a nuclear bomb. The lab’s new version will be much more ambitious and will focus on mapping rather than just detection.

      The technique takes advantage of the fact that everything on earth is constantly being bombarded by muons, subatomic particles that are somewhat like electrons, though about 200 times as heavy. Muons are shaken loose from molecules in the atmosphere by cosmic radiation, and rain down on the earth. They are so penetrating that most go straight through the planet and zip out the other side at near the speed of light without any effect on their trajectory.

      But occasionally, one of the muons will happen to hit an atomic nucleus, and when it does, it will change direction in a way that gives a clue about the shape of the target and the target’s density. The technique of detecting those scattered particles and inferring what it was that they bounced off is called muon tomography.

      “There is a similarity to X-ray, but the details of the physics are different,” Dr. McBranch said.

      Decision Sciences International, a Virginia company, says it can use muon tomography to screen a 40-foot shipping container in 45 seconds and sense whether there is uranium or plutonium in it, though not in great detail. As altered by the Los Alamos scientists for use at Fukushima, the process requires a much longer exposure — it could take weeks. But the result will be a three-dimensional image; concrete, steel and water will all be distinguishable from uranium, plutonium and other very heavy materials.

      “You don’t need a quick image, you just need a good image, and you have plenty of time,” said Stanton D. Sloane, the chief executive of Decision Sciences. Testing will begin later this year, officials say, and final images will be produced next year.

      “I would expect to be able to distinguish fairly readily between what would be described as random results from the meltdown, versus engineered structural components,” Mr. Sloane said.

      The Department of Energy, which runs the Los Alamos lab, does not yet have a formal agreement with Decision Sciences to produce the necessary hardware, but the company is likely to do so.

      Mr. Sloane would not say how much the equipment would cost, but the project is small by nuclear standards. Toshiba will reimburse Los Alamos for its costs, which officials said would come to less than half a million dollars. Los Alamos has spent about $4 million developing the technology. Decision Sciences spent additional money to commercialize it, but has not said how much.

      The Los Alamos contribution to the Fukushima project is mostly software. The accompanying apparatus, which has already been tried out on a small, intact reactor, consists of two billboard-size detectors, set up on opposite sides of the building. Each detector is like an array of pipes in a church organ, with each pipe filled with inert gases, including argon, that give an indication when a muon hits. The detectors keep track of which pipes were hit on the way in and on the way out, and at what angle. (It is not possible to “tag” a muon, but by timing the detections, the engineers can tell that they spotted the same muon coming and going.)

      The detectors do not have to go inside the reactor building. In fact, they would work less well inside, because gamma radiation coming off the melted fuel would make it harder to spot the muons. Instead, the detectors will be set up a few feet away from the reactor buildings’ outer walls, and will be shielded with four inches of steel, which will stop the gamma rays but makes no difference to the muons.

      At sea level, about 10,000 muons will pass through each square meter of the detectors every minute. Only a few of them will be deflected and yield useful data, so the detectors will need to run for weeks to gather enough for a clear picture.

      Muon tomography is not completely new; it was used in the 1960s to peer inside the Great Pyramid at Giza. But the current version produces images of much higher resolution, according to Dr. McBranch.

      Japan is increasingly turning to other countries for the technology needed to clean up Fukushima. This month, Tepco, the utility that operated the power plant, announced a deal with Kurion, a waste-handling company based in Irvine, Calif., for a mobile system to scrub radioactive strontium from 340,000 tons of contaminated water at the site.

      Lake H. Barrett, an engineer who is not directly involved in the muon project, said the technique was certainly worth trying. Mr. Barrett was the director of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission office on site at the cleanup of the Three Mile Island nuclear plant near Harrisburg, Pa.; he is now an adviser to the president of Tepco.

      Referring to the technology’s use in detecting smuggled weapons fuel, he said, “It’s nice to see the synergy of nonproliferation technologies, on which we in the U.S. have spent hundreds of millions of dollars, applied to another area.”

      “How effective it is, we’ll have to wait and see,” he continued. “But we’re all optimistic.”
      When the government pays, the government controls.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Ratt View Post
        So, this basically translates to a theory that we should (at some point in the very distant future, obviously) be able to travel faster than the speed of light. If matter and other forms of energy can do so, then it should be possible for the right people to come up with a system of propulsion that could do it.

        Most excellent.

        $85,000,000,000 and a Fox body...




        David

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        • #64
          The world's roundest object.





          To nerd out on the history of the kilogram, where the SI units came from, why the "standard" kg (which 4 of the 7 base units of measurement depend on) is not standard over time and why this is important... and why this led to the sphere you see watch this:


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          • #65
            I've spent the last few commutes listening to a JRE podcast with Randall Carlson and it's been, by far, one of the most thought provoking things I've listened to lately. I wanted to share and think this may be the best place for it.

            "Randall Carlson is a master builder and architectural designer, teacher, geometrician, geomythologist, geological explorer and renegade scholar. He has 4 decades of study, research and exploration into the interface between ancient mysteries and modern science, has been an active Freemason for 30 years and is Past Master of one of the oldest and largest Masonic lodges in Georgia. He has been recognized by The National Science Teachers Association for his commitment to Science education for young people."

            DISCLAIMER: The video is 3 hours long AND I have not yet watched it but can't get to it fast enough because I really want to see the graphs and pictures Carlson talks about. In addition, I know nothing about Mr. Carlson other than what I've heard in this single podcast and am in no position to make any claims to the validity or invalidity of what he's saying. It's rare that I'm inclined to share anything and this is only here because I found it very interesting and thought it would make for some decent conversation amongst those who take interest in science and our planet. I look forward to seeing what others think.

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            • #66
              If you think asphalt is a solid, you've never spent 2 hours in the Texas summer at 110 degrees trying to clean up an accident scene. If you stand in one place too long, your boots sink into the goo and leave what looks like moon boot prints.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Scott Mc View Post
                But what about transparent aluminum?


































                ...
                Originally posted by Silverback
                Look all you want, she can't find anyone else who treats her as bad as I do, and I keep her self esteem so low, she wouldn't think twice about going anywhere else.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by rick modena View Post
                  ...
                  thats trippy

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Tyrone Biggums View Post
                    I've spent the last few commutes listening to a JRE podcast with Randall Carlson and it's been, by far, one of the most thought provoking things I've listened to lately. I wanted to share and think this may be the best place for it.

                    "Randall Carlson is a master builder and architectural designer, teacher, geometrician, geomythologist, geological explorer and renegade scholar. He has 4 decades of study, research and exploration into the interface between ancient mysteries and modern science, has been an active Freemason for 30 years and is Past Master of one of the oldest and largest Masonic lodges in Georgia. He has been recognized by The National Science Teachers Association for his commitment to Science education for young people."

                    DISCLAIMER: The video is 3 hours long AND I have not yet watched it but can't get to it fast enough because I really want to see the graphs and pictures Carlson talks about. In addition, I know nothing about Mr. Carlson other than what I've heard in this single podcast and am in no position to make any claims to the validity or invalidity of what he's saying. It's rare that I'm inclined to share anything and this is only here because I found it very interesting and thought it would make for some decent conversation amongst those who take interest in science and our planet. I look forward to seeing what others think.

                    Fuck...

                    That's heavy.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Snatch Napkin View Post
                      Fuck...

                      That's heavy.
                      Yes, yes it is.




                      David

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                      • #71
                        It's for sure bullshit.
                        ZOMBIE REAGAN FOR PRESIDENT 2016!!! heh

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by YALE View Post
                          It's for sure bullshit.
                          Which concepts did you feel were the most bullshit laden? Not picking an argument, just want to know what others took from the conversation.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Tyrone Biggums View Post
                            Which concepts did you feel were the most bullshit laden? Not picking an argument, just want to know what others took from the conversation.
                            The long and the short of my problem with sacred geometry is the insistence on it being sacred. If it were real, it would just be geometry.

                            Sacred geometry:geometry as alternative medicine:medicine
                            ZOMBIE REAGAN FOR PRESIDENT 2016!!! heh

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by YALE View Post
                              The long and the short of my problem with sacred geometry is the insistence on it being sacred. If it were real, it would just be geometry.

                              Sacred geometry:geometry as alternative medicine:medicine
                              I wasn't real interested in the sacred geometry part of the conversation. If one looks long and hard enough, they could probably throw in whatever numbers they want and make them work to fit their ideas. What I found the most intriguing were the ideas behind earth change and cosmic events. The ice core samples, floods, cosmic impacts, the idea that a civilization with notable advancement, no so unlike our own, could have existed and been completely wiped out without traces to be found(yet), etc.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Tyrone Biggums View Post
                                I wasn't real interested in the sacred geometry part of the conversation. If one looks long and hard enough, they could probably throw in whatever numbers they want and make them work to fit their ideas. What I found the most intriguing were the ideas behind earth change and cosmic events. The ice core samples, floods, cosmic impacts, the idea that a civilization with notable advancement, no so unlike our own, could have existed and been completely wiped out without traces to be found(yet), etc.
                                The likelihood is low.
                                ZOMBIE REAGAN FOR PRESIDENT 2016!!! heh

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