Change allows for higher child support payments

[racrguy]

It happens. Can't make up for poor parenting.

So, here we have proof that if you go with the entitlement mentality you get shit kids, but if you go with the mentality that kids must earn what they've got, they'll generally act better.

My opinion on the matter is totally invalidated.

[bcoop]

I thought it was $1700?

Again, $1710/mo is just the father's portion. If a mother is receiving $1710/mo on a kid, she damn sure should be laying out the same amount on her own. Financial responsibility is not 100% on the father. It should be 50/50.

[Vertnut]

So, here we have proof that if you go with the entitlement mentality you get shit kids, but if you go with the mentality that kids must earn what they've got, they'll generally act better.

My opinion on the matter is totally invalidated.

Doesn't prove a thing except good parenting trumps all of it. How is helping your kids monetarily to achieve goals bad parenting?

[Vertnut]

Again, $1710/mo is just the father's portion. If a mother is receiving $1710/mo on a kid, she damn sure should be laying out the same amount on her own. Financial responsibility is not 100% on the father. It should be 50/50.

Yes, it should be. It's usually not, but it should be.

[juiceweezl]

He may not be a pro, but who is? College ball is not a huge leap. Just imagine Kenny gets a call from Jim Schlossnagle (the TCU baseball coach). He's got the grades, and he comes to you and says if he works really hard with a personal hitting coach and has a great junior/senior year, he has a really good shot at a scholarship. The time and money it takes (not to mention the kids dedication) is quite a load. I really hope you would allow him that shot. I really hope you guys get to experience that.

You realize a D1 collegiate baseball team gets like 13 scholarships to fill out an entire roster of 25+ kids, right? Typically, the most a kid on a D1 team will get offered is 50%. An absolute stud may get up to 80% in the first year and then it would bleed back each year thereafter. All these people that say "so and so got a scholarship to play XXXX to blah blah university" need to learn how the system works. I've coached for years, sent kids on to college, have a brother that pitched at a D1 school, and have 2 boys of my own playing now. One of them has a good chance at being a high draft pick out of high school and not just based on my opinion but on everyone that works with him. He's 10 today, is 5'4" and 114 pounds wearing a size 10+ shoe, touches 63 mph on the radar gun from the left side, hits bombs at the plate and lasers at people's faces if not a bomb. He is showing no signs of slowing down development or growth and is tracking to be 6'5" plus. Everything about him screams scholarship or draft. That being said, the odds of it all panning out are low as Brent said.

With all that said, he'll have a job in high school because no matter what, he's one injury away, one bad experience, one day of just deciding he doesn't like baseball anymore from having to do something else to make a living. He plays year round, but he treats school work like a job. He's beginning to do more around the house to help out and at times to earn money. He spends his own money on some of his gear now, and it's amazing how particular he is about purchases he makes. He has every possible high end piece of equipment he could NEED to excel. The wants are all his. It will always be that way. I intend for him to learn early how life should work.

[Vertnut]

You realize a D1 collegiate baseball team gets like 13 scholarships to fill out an entire roster of 25+ kids, right? Typically, the most a kid on a D1 team will get offered is 50%. An absolute stud may get up to 80% in the first year and then it would bleed back each year thereafter. All these people that say "so and so got a scholarship to play XXXX to blah blah university" need to learn how the system works. I've coached for years, sent kids on to college, have a brother that pitched at a D1 school, and have 2 boys of my own playing now. One of them has a good chance at being a high draft pick out of high school and not just based on my opinion but on everyone that works with him. He's 10 today, is 5'4" and 114 pounds wearing a size 10+ shoe, touches 63 mph on the radar gun from the left side, hits bombs at the plate and lasers at people's faces if not a bomb. He is showing no signs of slowing down development or growth and is tracking to be 6'5" plus. Everything about him screams scholarship or draft. That being said, the odds of it all panning out are low as Brent said.

With all that said, he'll have a job in high school because no matter what, he's one injury away, one bad experience, one day of just deciding he doesn't like baseball anymore from having to do something else to make a living. He plays year round, but he treats school work like a job. He's beginning to do more around the house to help out and at times to earn money. He spends his own money on some of his gear now, and it's amazing how particular he is about purchases he makes. He has every possible high end piece of equipment he could NEED to excel. The wants are all his. It will always be that way. I intend for him to learn early how life should work.

Good. Sounds like you have it figured out. We've lived it (with girls) and I fully understand DI/D2/D3(academic) scholarships. My oldest played through college, but was on an academic scholarship throughout school.

[juiceweezl]

Good.Sounds like you have it figured out.

I think you were implying what most of us mean/think about our kids and sports. By all means, we should give them every opportunity possible to excel in a sport they love, especially if they are gifted. At the end of the day though, everything should be an investment on their future. That includes time/money spent practicing a sport, time spent at school and on school work, and also time spent at learning life skills/job.

In the end, the lesson you want your son or daughter to learn is that the only real way to accomplish something in life, the only real way to get the things you need and want is to bust your ass and look after your own. Along the way, drop a dime to the Big Man upstairs, help friends and even strangers along the way who could use a little prop up to get their feet back on the ground if they're willing to work to keep them there, and spend a little extra on good booze because it's worth it.

[Vertnut]

I think you were implying what most of us mean/think about our kids and sports. By all means, we should give them every opportunity possible to excel in a sport they love, especially if they are gifted. At the end of the day though, everything should be an investment on their future. That includes time/money spent practicing a sport, time spent at school and on school work, and also time spent at learning life skills/job.

In the end, the lesson you want your son or daughter to learn is that the only real way to accomplish something in life, the only real way to get the things you need and want is to bust your ass and look after your own. Along the way, drop a dime to the Big Man upstairs, help friends and even strangers along the way who could use a little prop up to get their feet back on the ground if they're willing to work to keep them there, and spend a little extra on good booze because it's worth it.

Yep. I know. Two adult daughters.

*edit*
We had some kids that went on to play at NAIA schools on really good scholarships. It's pretty much up to that particular school on what the funding is. Several girls got damn near free educations. Don't count them out. And both my girls did have part-time jobs, but just for a few extra bucks.

[Machx2]

If a woman has all these rights to abort a child or not, regardless of what the father wants, then the father should have the right to sign his rights of the child over if he doesn't want it, regardless what the mother wants.

[mustang_revival]

If a woman has all these rights to abort a child or not, regardless of what the father wants, then the father should have the right to sign his rights of the child over if he doesn't want it, regardless what the mother wants.

He can, but doesn't always let him off the hook for Child Support.

[Machx2]

He can, but doesn't always let him off the hook for Child Support.

He can, if the mother agrees also.

[jdgregory84]

Child support has gotten ridiculous. I think my dad paid around $300/month back in the day. I think my parents got divorced in '87 and my mom never tried to get more money after the initial settlement. My pops always took care of me though when I was with him.

[idrivea4banger]

Child support has gotten ridiculous. I think my dad paid around $300/month back in the day. I think my parents got divorced in '87 and my mom never tried to get more money after the initial settlement. My pops always took care of me though when I was with him.

I pay roughly around that amount. I go beyond my payments to provide for my son. I hate the way these laws are set up. I think it should be set up where its split 50/50. You end up with the money hungry bitches who try and take more money out you with the way things are setup now. I've seen it happen. They're more concerned in getting "paid" than trying to better their situation.

[spankustang]

Again, $1710/mo is just the father's portion. If a mother is receiving $1710/mo on a kid, she damn sure should be laying out the same amount on her own. Financial responsibility is not 100% on the father. It should be 50/50.

EXACTLY
All these people bitching about child care and other things! If it's $800 month, the mother is responsible for 1/2 of that!! Too many mothers think of it as alimony!!! Pisses me off!
Luckily for me, my ex has been good about it. I've been paying for 12 years

[TexasT]

Pay attention to who you are giving the goldenrod to and much of this could be avoided. Once you got one(or more) on the ground, she's got you by the short n curlies.

I will agree, if you don't have kids, your opinions really are an empty theory. They might make sense to you but until you make that midnight trip for diapers or formula, or carry one or more into an emergency room with broken bones, I don't respect your opinion no matter how much sense it makes to you.

It's like you tryin to tell me you know about drag racing while we are standing in the pits next to my car and you "have yours home in the garage".

Children are expensive no matter how you look at it.