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  • #31
    Man. if you want to succeed at anything. The best path is to follow someone who has done what you are trying to do. If you are unable to stop drinking you need to get to know someone who has.
    I can say this from experience. Change will not happen till you hit bottom. I pray you are not someone whose bottom is six feet deep. At that point it is too late. I would pm you, but you need to take the first step. Pm me! -David

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    • #32
      Yeah... out of my buddys I grew up with and semi-keep in contact with, 4 are felons and one of them is about to serve some time all over DUI. No other crimes. Not worth it.

      Talking about "hurting" people.. you have to let the little stuff roll off your back and if you really can't, talk to a professional before your temper lands you in trouble.
      WRX

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      • #33
        Originally posted by mustang_revival View Post

        Talking about "hurting" people.. you have to let the little stuff roll off your back and if you really can't, talk to a professional before your temper lands you in trouble.

        This guy had a total flip out on the old board.


        The fact of the matter is you're not going to stop until you decide to, and when you decide to it has to be because you actually want to, not just because "you think you should." You'll probably fail a few times, and then it will take. That is the usually progression of things.

        I don't know what all this dumb shit is about hurting people intentionally, but I'd suggest getting a grip on yourself before someone decides to hurt you back exponentially. You also start out by saying you aren't an alcoholic, then come back and say you are one. You are one. Being honest with yourself is step 1. If you can't even face yourself, how are you going to face anyone else?

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        • #34
          Getting drunk regularly is just suicide on the installment plan. As you get older the alcohol abuse will lead to your body eventually falling apart and by that point it's too late to do anything about it. And that is only if you don't die drunk behind the wheel or get tossed into jail for intoxication manslaughter first.

          So go ahead and let the good times roll if you are willing to pay that price.

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          • #35
            I don't understand how getting drunk completely takes over someones life. Why would you want to be drunk all the time? My mind just doesn't comprehend it. I suppose its just like my mind doesn't comprehend thieves or getting around the system. I don't think that way.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by mstng86 View Post
              I don't understand how getting drunk completely takes over someones life. Why would you want to be drunk all the time? My mind just doesn't comprehend it. I supposed its just like my mind doesn't comprehend thieves or getting around the system. I don't think that way.

              Beats the shit out of me. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be drunk at work. That seems like it would be an annoyance, rather than fun. Someone doesn't have to want to be drunk all the time to fit the definition of an alcoholic, though.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by mstng86 View Post
                I don't understand how getting drunk completely takes over someones life. Why would you want to be drunk all the time? My mind just doesn't comprehend it. I suppose its just like my mind doesn't comprehend thieves or getting around the system. I don't think that way.
                When I'm not slipping I feel like you. I slip in and out of mild alcoholism and the mind set is completely different than normal and 1 beer turns into 20-30 or even 45+ over a relatively short period of time.

                Frankly, I feel blessed - because when I start down that path (sometimes it takes weeks) - I just don't buy anymore beer and do anything else I can to not drink. It's easy for me to reel in. Generally, I can drink a few a night or every few days and be fine - maybe get lit up once every 2 weeks or so for fun....just sometimes it gets worst and worst.

                Never at work, no more when driving (stopped that a long time ago), never before work...etc...etc. In other words 100% functional still and safe - but I don't want my kids thinking that is normal.

                Because of that, I considered writing off drinking all together. I won't at this point, but it has crossed my mind. When controlled and normal, it is fine. My wife is getting good at giving me the heads up and I stop again for awhile.

                Anyway, I can understand the mind set - even though I'm not a true alcoholic or at least a hardcore one - I get the problem.

                It's really not any different than smoking or any other habit.
                Originally posted by MR EDD
                U defend him who use's racial slurs like hes drinking water.

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                • #38
                  You arent an alcoholic, you are a drunk.
                  "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by ceyko View Post
                    When I'm not slipping I feel like you. I slip in and out of mild alcoholism and the mind set is completely different than normal and 1 beer turns into 20-30 or even 45+ over a relatively short period of time.

                    Frankly, I feel blessed - because when I start down that path (sometimes it takes weeks) - I just don't buy anymore beer and do anything else I can to not drink. It's easy for me to reel in. Generally, I can drink a few a night or every few days and be fine - maybe get lit up once every 2 weeks or so for fun....just sometimes it gets worst and worst.

                    Never at work, no more when driving (stopped that a long time ago), never before work...etc...etc. In other words 100% functional still and safe - but I don't want my kids thinking that is normal.

                    Because of that, I considered writing off drinking all together. I won't at this point, but it has crossed my mind. When controlled and normal, it is fine. My wife is getting good at giving me the heads up and I stop again for awhile.

                    Anyway, I can understand the mind set - even though I'm not a true alcoholic or at least a hardcore one - I get the problem.

                    It's really not any different than smoking or any other habit.
                    People that aren't "true" alcoholics don't think like this. Alcoholism is well documented to be a progressive disease, and it will sneak up on you. I'm not trying to scare you away from drinking, just be aware that with the mentality that you described, you are playing with fire.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by ELVIS View Post
                      nigga you da shit!

                      god bless.
                      I lol'ed, and bet money he still doesn't get it.
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                      • #41
                        i want to give you some words of encouragement, but i'm on my third beer, soooooooo, cheers!

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by ceyko View Post
                          When I'm not slipping I feel like you. I slip in and out of mild alcoholism and the mind set is completely different than normal and 1 beer turns into 20-30 or even 45+ over a relatively short period of time.

                          Frankly, I feel blessed - because when I start down that path (sometimes it takes weeks) - I just don't buy anymore beer and do anything else I can to not drink. It's easy for me to reel in. Generally, I can drink a few a night or every few days and be fine - maybe get lit up once every 2 weeks or so for fun....just sometimes it gets worst and worst.

                          Never at work, no more when driving (stopped that a long time ago), never before work...etc...etc. In other words 100% functional still and safe - but I don't want my kids thinking that is normal.

                          Because of that, I considered writing off drinking all together. I won't at this point, but it has crossed my mind. When controlled and normal, it is fine. My wife is getting good at giving me the heads up and I stop again for awhile.

                          Anyway, I can understand the mind set - even though I'm not a true alcoholic or at least a hardcore one - I get the problem.

                          It's really not any different than smoking or any other habit.
                          i couldnt have said it better. i work hard, outside, and sometimes it's physically demanding; and reward myself with a cold beer after work. that usually means 6 - 12oz, or maybe 2-3 24 oz's. BUT i get off work at 3, i'll have a beer or two before i pick my son up at 530, and i dont have another one til he goes to bed around 8. and i am in bed by 10-1030. i feel like i have it in control, and the fact that i WILL NOT touch liquor lets me know in my conscious i am at least addressing my situation. I think having this child has saved my life. I dont go out anymore for the simple fact that i finally have something/someone to live for!

                          my wife also does a good job at double checking me.

                          ceyko, wanna grab a drink or 4 sometime?!
                          THE BAD HOMBRE

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                          • #43
                            How do you go about talking to a relative about it. Has anyone here had to do that before?
                            Originally posted by Theodore Roosevelt
                            It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming...

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Chas_svo View Post
                              I lol'ed, and bet money he still doesn't get it.
                              #2 = shit.. im a lowly plumber, how could i not get it?
                              THE BAD HOMBRE

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Probie View Post
                                How do you go about talking to a relative about it. Has anyone here had to do that before?
                                wait til you're old enough to drink.. seriously.
                                THE BAD HOMBRE

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