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  • Primeval forest discovered in Gulf of Mexico

    Wow, this is super cool.



    Scuba divers have discovered a primeval underwater forest off the coast of Alabama.

    The Bald Cypress forest was buried under ocean sediments, protected in an oxygen-free environment for more than 50,000 years, but was likely uncovered by Hurricane Katrina in 2005, said Ben Raines, one of the first divers to explore the underwater forest and the executive director of the nonprofit Weeks Bay Foundation, which researches estuaries.

    The forest contains trees so well-preserved that when they are cut, they still smell like fresh Cypress sap, Raines said.

    The stumps of the Cypress trees span an area of at least 0.5 square miles (0.8 kilometers), several miles from the coast of Mobile, Ala., and sit about 60 feet (18 meters) below the surface of the Gulf of Mexico.

    Despite its discovery only recently, the underwater landscape has just a few years to be explored, before wood-burrowing marine animals destroy the ancient forest.

    Raines was talking with a friend who owned a dive shop about a year after Hurricane Katrina. The dive shop owner confided that a local fisherman had found a site teeming with fish and wildlife and suspected that something big was hidden below. The diver went down to explore and found a forest of trees, then told Raines about his stunning find.

    But because scuba divers often take artifacts from shipwrecks and other sites, the dive shop owner refused to disclose the location for many years, Raines said.

    In 2012, the owner finally revealed the site's location after swearing Raines to secrecy. Raines then did his own dive and discovered a primeval Cypress swamp in pristine condition. The forest had become an artificial reef, attracting fish, crustaceans, sea anemones and other underwater life burrowing between the roots of dislodged stumps. [Images: Mysterious Underwater Stone Structure]

    Some of the trees were truly massive, and many logs had fallen over before being covered by ocean sediment. Raines swam the length of the logs.

    "Swimming around amidst these stumps and logs, you just feel like you're in this fairy world," Raines told LiveScience's OurAmazingPlanet.

    Raines reached out to several scientists to learn more about the forest. One of those scientists was Grant Harley, a dendrochronologist (someone who studies tree rings) at the University of Southern Mississippi.

    Harley was intrigued, and together with geographer Kristine DeLong of Louisiana State University, set out to discover the site's secrets.

    The research team created a sonar map of the area and analyzed two samples Raines took from trees. DeLong is planning her own dive at the site later this year. Because of the forest depth, scuba divers can only stay below for about 40 minutes before coming up.

    Carbon isotopes (atoms of the same element that have different molecular weights) revealed that the trees were about 52,000 years old.

    The trees' growth rings could reveal secrets about the climate of the Gulf of Mexico thousands of years ago, during a period known as the Wisconsin Glacial period, when sea levels were much lower than they are today.

    In addition, because Bald Cypress trees can live a thousand years, and there are so many of them, the trees could contain thousands of years of climate history for the region, Harley said.

    "These stumps are so big, they're upwards of two meters in diameter — the size of trucks," Harley told OurAmazingPlanet. "They probably contain thousands of growth rings."

    The team, which has not yet published their results in a peer-reviewed journal, is currently applying for grants to explore the site more thoroughly.

    Harley estimates they have just two years.

    "The longer this wood sits on the bottom of the ocean, the more marine organisms burrow into the wood, which can create hurdles when we are trying to get radiocarbon dates," Harley said. "It can really make the sample undatable, unusable."

  • #2
    Now that's pretty neat. There is no telling how much stuff is hidden just below the surface at any point on the face of this planet.

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    • #3
      Not possible - world less than 10,000 years old.
      Originally posted by davbrucas
      I want to like Slow99 since people I know say he's a good guy, but just about everything he posts is condescending and passive aggressive.

      Most people I talk to have nothing but good things to say about you, but you sure come across as a condescending prick. Do you have an inferiority complex you've attempted to overcome through overachievement? Or were you fondled as a child?

      You and slow99 should date. You both have passive aggressiveness down pat.

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      • #4
        be cool if they found a way to get some pics.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by slow99 View Post
          Not possible - world less than 10,000 years old.
          carbon dating proves otherwise....


          Originally posted by mstng86 View Post
          be cool if they found a way to get some pics.
          If we can have pictures of the Titanic, I'm sure there will be pics of the forest

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          • #6
            How quickly would the water have to rise to leave them intact and not subject to erosion?

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            • #7
              Pretty cool!
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              • #8
                I'd like to see some pics of this for sure...
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by slow99 View Post
                  Not possible - world less than 10,000 years old.
                  sigpic

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Jmd View Post
                    carbon dating proves otherwise....




                    If we can have pictures of the Titanic, I'm sure there will be pics of the forest
                    You mean which craft proves otherwise.

                    No way they can be certain on the carbon dating thing.

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                    • #11
                      Am I the only one that read this: "The forest contains trees so well-preserved that when they are cut, they still smell like fresh Cypress sap," and really wants to find out if true? How fucking cool would it be to smell something that old?
                      Fuck you. We're going to Costco.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by slow99 View Post
                        Not possible - world less than 10,000 years old.
                        Closer to 6,000. Radiometric dating is flawed at best.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Craizie View Post
                          You mean which craft proves otherwise.

                          No way they can be certain on the carbon dating thing.
                          Which craft are you referring to?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Jmd View Post
                            carbon dating proves otherwise....
                            Nu uh!
                            Originally posted by Broncojohnny
                            HOORAY ME and FUCK YOU!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Randy View Post
                              Which craft are you referring to?
                              Witch craft. My fault.

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