Young people isolated in the working world

[Cooter]

College/masters degree absolutely helped my wife land the job she has and got her a higher pay rate.

Being a mother fucking hustler with no formal education makes me 3-4x what she does.

I honestly feel that passion drives success. If somebody goes to school just to get a degree in something that has a high average salary, their chances of success are below average. Whereas if somebody is passionate about that particular field and not necessarily just in it for the money, they'll do well.

Flip side of that is that THE most successful people I know personally are business owners with zero college level education. But I'm sure that's because I don't mingle with many white collar folk

[slow99]

It isn't too hard to model out a DCF and get a feel regarding the value of higher education. Kids have certainly been hurt by the mindset the last few years that every kid needs to go to college - truth is they all don't. The education bubble will burst, there's no question the current trajectory is unsustainable.

[FATHERFORD]

2 year college FTW

[Sean88gt]

It isn't too hard to model out a DCF and get a feel regarding the value of higher education. Kids have certainly been hurt by the mindset the last few years that every kid needs to go to college - truth is they all don't. The education bubble will burst, there's no question the current trajectory is unsustainable.

The sad thing is that a lot of kids don't realize they'll still be stupid even after they graduate.

[greenbeancasserole]

My work hires kids straight out of college who can interview well but never work a job before. Their typical turnover rate is every 6 months, on nearly all of them. You mean I can't work 9-5 with weekends off and make six figures ohhh noooo I quit

, the kids who got straight a's in college and got scholar ships expecting to change the world just don't get working and go back to school again because that's all they know

Then the people who can't interview at all and have college degrees sit around with all the debt making $10 an hour

Meanwhile the guy busting his ass with 3 kids who trains these college kids get a $.035 raise per year and can't get promoted

Nail on the fucking head!

Well, working from the bottom up is essentially gone now, too. There arent many places that will train you and let you work up the chain.

And that's why management is piss poor at best and nobody wants to work for a clueless dick who doesn't know the first thing about what he's talking about.

[Chas_svo]

My degree was the best time/money I've ever spent. I paid for all but the last semester out of pocket while working part time. The ROI is well worth it, and honestly would be at 6-8 times the cost.

I also work with 2 non-degreed professionals that are both great and very competent. Unfortunately, if they were seeking work, I couldn't even interview the because they don't have 4y degrees.

While I agree that not every is a good fit for a degree, people should follow what they love/like/enjoy. I didn't really do this, as I could not make enough to live the way I wanted jet skiing, turning wrenches after hours, and managing a parts store.

I sure hope my kids get degrees.

[fastwhite99gt]

My dad has 2 masters degrees but drove a rural route for the post office because he found he hated an office setting lol. Me, I thought about mechanical engineering, loved the math, science and drafting classes, just could get over having to take government, history, comp and lit, all the same bullshit classes I just took in high school. I went to work on diesels, made the move to working for the DOD as a mechanic and if everything works out this week, should move to bring an inspector. Being that I deploy overseas a lot with the DOD, I have done very well for myself even doing manual labor. I just can't see how college would have really helped me much.

[Kimmypie]

Me, I thought about mechanical engineering, loved the math, science and drafting classes, just could get over having to take government, history, comp and lit, all the same bullshit classes I just took in high school. I went to work on diesels, made the move to working for the DOD as a mechanic and if everything works out this week, should move to bring an inspector. Being that I deploy overseas a lot with the DOD, I have done very well for myself even doing manual labor. I just can't see how college would have really helped me much.

The perfect argument for high schools offering tech/career classes instead of forcing everyone into the college route!

[YALE]

I wish I hadn't attempted college the first time. I wish I would've just waited until now. I couldn't be bothered to attend class when I was 19, and now I'm consistently one of the highest performer in my classes. I guess I just needed to get hungry enough for it, and not just look at it as a default action. FWIW, after wanting to go to college for a lot of things, I chose an Accounting major, and so far I couldn't be happier. I'm sure I'll get a job when I get out. As far as whether or not the vast majority of kids graduating can get jobs or not? I don't care. I can't worry about them. I can only control myself.

[naynay]

Y=o=l=o

[Kimmypie]

Y=o=l=o

YOLO...for people to stupid to use Carpe Diem

[naynay]

or for those living in the 2000s and not the 1600's, just sayin.

[Kimmypie]

Try Latin poet Horace sometime before 8 BC. It's has just a wee a bit more endurance than YOLO.

[naynay]

yolo's a new term.. give it time.. i mean, LOL is still going strong, and so is BRB.. so ya never know, ya know!?

[Chas_svo]

I wish I hadn't attempted college the first time. I wish I would've just waited until now. I couldn't be bothered to attend class when I was 19, and now I'm consistently one of the highest performer in my classes. I guess I just needed to get hungry enough for it, and not just look at it as a default action. FWIW, after wanting to go to college for a lot of things, I chose an Accounting major, and so far I couldn't be happier. I'm sure I'll get a job when I get out. As far as whether or not the vast majority of kids graduating can get jobs or not? I don't care. I can't worry about them. I can only control myself.

Same here. Non trad, but graduated with honors, and had a job before graduating, as did 100% of my classmates.