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  • #16
    Originally posted by CJ View Post
    It's sure it's a combination of both, it just (to me) looks like that bump strip caused him to lose control.
    I'm on my phone, so I could be wrong.

    I hate death in any kind of motorsports.. More regulations to come.

    320rwhp. 7.67 @ 90mph 1.7 60'

    DD: 2004 GMC Sierra VHO 6.0 LQ9 324whp 350wtrq

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    • #17
      I was at a race when a racer was killed in the early to mid 90's. It was a simple Super Chevy race at Ennis. I saw the car after the wreck and knew it was very bad. I seriously thought of leaving right then and there and throwing away the entry $. I would hate to have to race another 23 hours knowing what happened.

      RIP Simonsen.
      Some cars and a bike...

      Some say... they have been raced, some a lot

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      • #18
        Motorsports can kill you even if you don't wreck.

        was running in a race where a competitor in another class had a heart attack and wrecked, he was in his 30's. We too, as a series, were contemplating packing it in for the evening but his family said to finish the evening. We did, we donated our entire purse to the family and went into the stands for donations as well. It was a bad night.

        RIP Allan.

        On a side note, the wreck that killed Jason Leffler was caused by a mechanical failure by the state police, they found the RF torsion stop in turn 4, away from any of the other crash debris. That, coupled with the lack of head restraint on the left side (removed because it obstructed driver vision) caused a head/neck injury.

        Racing is fucking dangerous folks, those of you that do it, even in a straight line need all the best safety gear money can buy. Don't be a cheap motherfucker.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by racrguy View Post
          Racing is fucking dangerous folks, those of you that do it, even in a straight line need all the best safety gear money can buy. Don't be a cheap motherfucker.
          I have seen 3 really good friends crash while racing 8.20-7.30 second dragsters. One driver error, one chassis failure, the last made a simple mistake (brushed the trans brake button on a high gear only powerglide). One was fine, one had concussion, one got some pretty serious hand injuires. All had NHRA spec safety crap and basically great race cars (the chassis failure is a highly debated thing).

          Strap those properly mounted and dated belts a little tighter, wear a GOOD helmet (not the crap you rode dirt bikes on back in the 80's).

          All it takes is once.
          Some cars and a bike...

          Some say... they have been raced, some a lot

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          • #20
            Originally posted by racrguy View Post
            Motorsports can kill you even if you don't wreck.

            was running in a race where a competitor in another class had a heart attack and wrecked, he was in his 30's. We too, as a series, were contemplating packing it in for the evening but his family said to finish the evening. We did, we donated our entire purse to the family and went into the stands for donations as well. It was a bad night.

            RIP Allan.
            You are directly contradicting yourself, you say he had a heart attack, and then that he wrecked. If the heart attack killed him, then it was a medical issue unrelated to motorsports. If the wreck killed him, that goes against what you initially said.

            Aside from perhaps getting stuck inside a burning vehicle somehow, after a mechanical failure cause the flames, there really isn't any way to die in motorsports without wrecking. Not that it isn't dangerous to race, but the possibility of wrecking is what makes it dangerous.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Big A View Post

              Aside from perhaps getting stuck inside a burning vehicle somehow, after a mechanical failure cause the flames, there really isn't any way to die in motorsports without wrecking. Not that it isn't dangerous to race, but the possibility of wrecking is what makes it dangerous.
              Spectator/crew/official being struck by debris? Ask Antron Brown about it.
              Some cars and a bike...

              Some say... they have been raced, some a lot

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              • #22
                Originally posted by CJ View Post
                That's terrible. The first vid posted is very eerie. One minute in control, and then next you're gone. Sometimes with all this safety and technology we forget just how dangerous motorsports are. I would think at that particular location in the track they might not want bump strips near a spot where you can have a perpendicular collision with a wall.
                Indeed. First time I saw a man die was at MSR in Cresson. Couple of open wheel cars got together and one of the men got his ticket punched. It is a dangerous hobby and there is no way around that.
                Originally posted by lincolnboy
                After watching Games of Thrones, makes me glad i was not born in those years.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by SC457A View Post
                  Spectator/crew/official being struck by debris? Ask Antron Brown about it.
                  The debris was thrown into the air as a result of a wreck. Again, motorsports can be quite dangerous, but it's the wrecks that make it so.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Big A View Post
                    You are directly contradicting yourself, you say he had a heart attack, and then that he wrecked. If the heart attack killed him, then it was a medical issue unrelated to motorsports. If the wreck killed him, that goes against what you initially said.

                    Aside from perhaps getting stuck inside a burning vehicle somehow, after a mechanical failure cause the flames, there really isn't any way to die in motorsports without wrecking. Not that it isn't dangerous to race, but the possibility of wrecking is what makes it dangerous.
                    I don't see how. Increased stresses on the body. Increased heart rate, adrenaline. Tons of chemicals dumped into your body. The driver had no other injuries other than his heart problem. I've been so focused before that I've forgotten to breathe. It's not unreasonable to think that the stress of racing exacerbated a problem that he may not have had had he engaged in a more sedentary lifestyle..

                    Edit: Also, the cars are starting to corner so well that g-forces are starting to become a bit of an issue with staying conscious on long turns.
                    Last edited by racrguy; 06-22-2013, 09:01 PM.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by 91GriggsGT View Post
                      "Simonsen's car appeared to snap loose on the damp and slick track, then immediately turned back to the left has he corrected and slid into a steel barrier."
                      Announcers were also saying the track was wet.

                      Originally posted by racrguy View Post
                      Motorsports can kill you even if you don't wreck.
                      And you're a moron, and this has nothing to do with the thread, and you're a moron.

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                      • #26
                        "The #95 Allan Simonsen @AMR_Official tribute artwork. A very emotional piece to create at #LM24
                        http://t.co/zYrHGOOER3"

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                        • #27
                          Racecar driver die due to blunt force trauma, penetrating trauma, spinal cord injury, internal organ disruption, fire and more.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by DOHCTR View Post
                            Indeed. First time I saw a man die was at MSR in Cresson. Couple of open wheel cars got together and one of the men got his ticket punched. It is a dangerous hobby and there is no way around that.
                            Greg Bruder. I was there that day as well. It was eerie how quiet things got at the track.

                            Weirdly, I had some major contact at the track this weekend that screwed up my wife's car. Not my fault and the first time in 7 years of W2W I have had anything like this. As cars are getting faster and more inexperienced drivers are hitting the scene, the dangers of W2W are growing at a rapid pace. Thankfully, I'm ok and it's mostly cosmetic but weird weekend as I know too many friends with bent up race cars at several tracks this weekend. full moon?

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