Police arrest woman after she requested to see a warrant

[Forever_frost]

So what happens again when a citizen walks into someones home and handcuffs them, takes them away and locks them up in a basement for 24 hours?

Since this man has sworn to uphold the laws then I feel he should face a more severe punishment than an average Joe should.

Nah, he just needs a stern talking to and allowed to continue.

[bcoop]

He's got no business being an active officer without a serious attitude adjustment, but this isn't cause for completely ruining the guys life. You really do have a twisted hatred for LEO man, it's not sane thinking.

As much as a crackpot lunatic as Frost is, his point is solid on this. This is hard to argue with. This arrest will follow her for the rest of her life. It's hard to quantify how much money this is going to cost her in the long run, on jobs she will miss out on, etc. And the fact that she did absolutely nothing wrong to get arrested? This guy deserves to lose his livelihood. Not to mention, this behavior by police will not stop until someone fucks them as hard as they fuck the citizens. This goes beyond money, though $10,000,000 sounds like a reasonable compensation for his misplaced bravado.

Now, her mug shot and arrest record will always be on the internet and searchable. The quality of jobs she is available for now has been significantly reduced all because he wanted to pull out his badge and demand she submit.

[crapstang]

Wow. I would have gone quietly and then done just like Yale said.

Definitely. You cannot stand up the Gestapo in the heat of the moment...you have to go through the legal system. CHOOO$$$CHOOO$$$ in a few months/years.

[03trubluGT]

Slaton police came to this woman's house, who wishes to remain anonymous, to arrest her son. But by asking one simple question, she found herself behind bars instead.

"I told him, 'I will release my son to you upon viewing those orders.' Those were exactly my words," The complainant said. "He said, 'This is how you want to play?' He took two steps back, turned around to the officer and said, 'Take her.' They turned me around, handcuffed me, and took me in."

The complainant said she was aware police would be coming to apprehend her 11-year-old son based on a criminal complaint, and that she just wanted to see the warrant. As it turns out, that warrant didn't exist. She spent the night in jail while her son was left at home.

http://www.myfoxlubbock.com/news/loc...tfsUtvqGg.cspx

Issues I see:

1. How did the police know there was going to be a DTA (Directive to Apprehend) unless someone from the juvenile department told them? There had to be some communication from that office telling the PD that it was either done or imminent.

2. There is no information as to what the woman was arrested for. Don't you think any good story would have the reason she was arrested? Is it a secret? Was it harboring??? Why couldn't that information be included?

There is an apparent serious problem with this officer's method of policing. What's wrong with going in with a good attitude first? Always try to resolve the situation with tact before grabbing the hammer. Officers get lied to all the time, but it doesn't mean you start out treating everyone like a piece of shit.

[Forever_frost]

Issues I see:

1. How did the police know there was going to be a DTA (Directive to Apprehend) unless someone from the juvenile department told them? There had to be some communication from that office telling the PD that it was either done or imminent.

2. There is no information as to what the woman was arrested for. Don't you think any good story would have the reason she was arrested? Is it a secret? Was it harboring??? Why couldn't that information be included?

There is an apparent serious problem with this officer's method of policing. What's wrong with going in with a good attitude first? Always try to resolve the situation with tact before grabbing the hammer. Officers get lied to all the time, but it doesn't mean you start out treating everyone like a piece of shit.

They told her they had a warrant. The warrant wasn't signed until the day after she was arrested. Do you have information explaining anything different than what was presented? And the department offering an apology if she gives up her rights?

You just can't bring yourself to come down on bad cops getting their badge on and arresting innocents for asking them for their reason to be on private property. You go with 'he had a bad method?' No, he had an illegal method and should be blacklisted from policing and arrested, THEN sued the fuck out of.

[03trubluGT]

They told her they had a warrant. The warrant wasn't signed until the day after she was arrested. Do you have information explaining anything different than what was presented? And the department offering an apology if she gives up her rights?

You just can't bring yourself to come down on bad cops getting their badge on and arresting innocents for asking them for their reason to be on private property. You go with 'he had a bad method?' No, he had an illegal method and should be blacklisted from policing and arrested, THEN sued the fuck out of.

Were they clairvoyant? Did they have a Magic 8 Ball that said "WARRANT"?

So you blindly just go on what is told to you?

I'm saying it doesn't make sense for cops to go to someone's house looking for a juvy unless they know a DTA is coming, and that's usually by a call or fax from juvenile services.

You're outta your damned mind if you think I can't criticize bad policing.

His conduct (like any conduct) should be investigated and if it is violation, then punished. Let me say that again for you:

His conduct (like any conduct) should be investigated and if it is violation, then punished.

The thing about the dept offering an apology is ridiculous. I can see that if the leadership there has that mentality, it explains the poor service that the officers are giving, or that the particular officer gave in this instance.

[Forever_frost]

Poor service? You mean criminal violations of civil rights. This isn't McDonald's fucking up your order, this is a cop arresting you for asking for a warrant.

[03trubluGT]

Poor service? You mean criminal violations of civil rights. This isn't McDonald's fucking up your order, this is a cop arresting you for asking for a warrant.

So if they refund her order, everything is OK?

[Sgt Beavis]

Hold on, don't rush to judgement here now people. Did you read this part?


McDonald said the Slaton Police Department will issue an apology as long as the mother agrees not to file a lawsuit.

Simple solution, it's all good!

Is that an absurd statement or what? Hey, we'll be happy to say we're sorry as long as there are no repercussions for our actions.

How about disciplining the officers that violated her rights and apologizing with an offer of compensation for her time and embarrassment.

[Forever_frost]

So if they refund her order, everything is OK?

No, if the cop who arrested her is booked, has a mug shot and fingerprints on file and put in jail, THEN it's okay.

[CexMashean]

I love the "ant hill into a mountain" reactions that these ftp threads always seem to generate. It's entertaining, and also saddening.

[Txstang1]

Is that an absurd statement or what? Hey, we'll be happy to say we're sorry as long as there are no repercussions for our actions.

How about disciplining the officers that violated her rights and apologizing with an offer of compensation for her time and embarrassment.

Exactly.

Can cops be sued personally or are they protected by the dept or state ? They probably are, since for the most part they seem to be protected from criminal prosecution when they break the law.

[TeeShock]

I want a badge so I can be above the law too

[ceyko]

So if they refund her order, everything is OK?

I sometimes wonder if some cops lose sight of how an arrest can destroy a normal person's life. Regardless of how minor, if I'm arrested, miss a day or two at work and it's found out I was arrested - I can pretty much count on being terminated when I get out. Even if I'm out an hour later, I can count on not having a job soon afterwards.

Most normal people are generally like I am. Not the crooks you probably deal with more often than not - to them, another month in jail...no big deal. No job anyway. The rest of us, once the job is gone - so is everything else. At that point, I'd probably start considering more devious means to make ends meet.

Granted, there is a huge difference between being arrested for good cause (earned it) and otherwise.

[Forever_frost]

And if you're military and arrested, you're done. Doesn't matter if it was a bad arrest, if you were innocent, nothing. You're done. Security clearance? Revoked. Any hope at a good paying job that they actually do history checks? Not going to happen. Arrests should be made with the best possible evidence that a crime has been committed and there absolutely should be punishment when someone is falsely arrested that involves the department paying to have their record expunged and measures taken to go through and remove that information from online databases. Yes it'll cost a bit, but an arrest follows you for the rest of your life.