Boulder woman disturbed to discover police regularly enter unsecured homes

[jluv]

I lock my shit.

That said, even if I left it open, I don't like the idea of a cop coming in uninvited. If someone from my house calls in distress, or if a neighbor calls because they actually saw something suspicious (beyond just an open door), that's different. But just an open door alone shouldn't give them the right to enter. If the law says otherwise, that sucks.

[kingjason]

Probably 95 percent of the time this occurs there has been a burglar alarm and or a door was left unsecured and wide open for someone to see. Depends on the prior call in this story whether I think it would be a good entry or not. I do not make it a habit to walk around folks house and jiggle the knobs unless I am dispatched to that residence for a reason. Lets all face it we do not want random fuckers walking around in our house. I have known lots of Officers and can say over the years there may have been one or two I wouldn't want in my house. If I am dispatched to your house for a random BMV follow up or some other kind of bullshit I have no intentions of even touching your door handles or sliding glass window. I don't want to be in your house anymore then you want me there.

[bcoop]

Probably 95 percent of the time this occurs there has been a burglar alarm and or a door was left unsecured and wide open for someone to see. Depends on the prior call in this story whether I think it would be a good entry or not. I do not make it a habit to walk around folks house and jiggle the knobs unless I am dispatched to that residence for a reason. Lets all face it we do not want random fuckers walking around in our house. I have known lots of Officers and can say over the years there may have been one or two I wouldn't want in my house. If I am dispatched to your house for a random BMV follow up or some other kind of bullshit I have no intentions of even touching your door handles or sliding glass window. I don't want to be in your house anymore then you want me there.

Reported post for not falling in line with your brethren.


Good post, and kudos for your honestly and lack of "fuck you, I'm a cop" mentality a la hustleman, the JBT.

[jewozzy]

i think ya'll took what he said out of context. it looked to me like he was saying that it doesnt matter to "you" if its exigent circumstances because it's already been validated to be lawful.

[46Tbird]

i think ya'll took what he said out of context. it looked to me like he was saying that it doesnt matter to "you" if its exigent circumstances because it's already been validated to be lawful.

I didn't take it out of context. I just thought the context he put it in was funny.

[hustleman]

Does that statement stink of "fuck you, I'm a cop" to you as well, or is it just me?

No it stinks of case law and court system deeming it exigent circumstances. Has nothing to do with me being a cop or fuck you I'm a cop. Has everything to do with case law. Please ready precious posts before you imply I'm some rouge cop

[hustleman]

i think ya'll took what he said out of context. it looked to me like he was saying that it doesnt matter to "you" if its exigent
circumstances because it's already been validated to be lawful.

Bingo!!! U are a bright person

[ceyko]

I lock my shit.

That said, even if I left it open, I don't like the idea of a cop coming in uninvited. If someone from my house calls in distress, or if a neighbor calls because they actually saw something suspicious (beyond just an open door), that's different. But just an open door alone shouldn't give them the right to enter. If the law says otherwise, that sucks.

i think ya'll took what he said out of context. it looked to me like he was saying that it doesnt matter to "you" if its exigent circumstances because it's already been validated to be lawful.

I think jluv summarized okay from my perspective. Especially his last line, but the other sentences details what is okay/not okay from a lowly citizen's point of view.

I know, I know, we don't know what is good for us and are dumb asses.

Ya know, that's not fair. I know a lot of y'all get it and it is a totally different perspective. Look around though, do you not see a need for our paranoia?

[bcoop]

No it stinks of case law and court system deeming it exigent circumstances. Has nothing to do with me being a cop or fuck you I'm a cop. Has everything to do with case law. Please ready precious posts before you imply I'm some rouge cop

I didn't imply you we're a rogue cop. I implied that you are a jack booted thug, and your statement backs up what I implied.

[hustleman]

I didn't imply you we're a rogue cop. I implied that you are a jack booted thug, and your statement backs up what I implied.

Lol. Nice try clown

[Broncojohnny]

No it stinks of case law and court system deeming it exigent circumstances. Has nothing to do with me being a cop or fuck you I'm a cop. Has everything to do with case law. Please ready precious posts before you imply I'm some rouge cop

This doesn't even come close to "exigent circumstances". Are you drunk?

[hustleman]

This doesn't even come close to "exigent circumstances". Are you drunk?

Possibility of an in-progress crime. Ummm that would be exigent. Are you sober??? Know what you are talking about first before you speak.

[Broncojohnny]

Possibility of an in-progress crime. Ummm that would be exigent. Are you sober??? Know what you are talking about first before you speak.

So an open upstairs door gives you:

"objectively reasonable basis for believing that an occupant is seriously injured or imminently threatened with such injury."

Just because Chief Wiggum told you that you can do it and you have been doing it for years without getting sued doesn't mean it is an exigent circumstance.

[hustleman]

So an open upstairs door gives you:

"objectively reasonable basis for believing that an occupant is seriously injured or imminently threatened with such injury."

Just because Chief Wiggum told you that you can do it and you have been doing it for years without getting sued doesn't mean it is an exigent circumstance.

Make sure you put the full definition of exigent circumstances:

"In the criminal procedure context, exigent circumstance means:
An emergency situation requiring swift action to prevent imminent danger to life or serious damage to property, or to forestall the imminent escape of a suspect, or destruction of evidence. There is no ready litmus test for determining whether such circumstances exist, and in each case the extraordinary situation must be measured by the facts known by officials"

I'm just trying to educate you guys. I don't understand why I keep trying, so enjoy your ignorance.

[Broncojohnny]

Make sure you put the full definition of exigent circumstances:

"In the criminal procedure context, exigent circumstance means:
An emergency situation requiring swift action to prevent imminent danger to life or serious damage to property, or to forestall the imminent escape of a suspect, or destruction of evidence. There is no ready litmus test for determining whether such circumstances exist, and in each case the extraordinary situation must be measured by the facts known by officials"

I'm just trying to educate you guys. I don't understand why I keep trying, so enjoy your ignorance.

Maybe you should educate youself for a change and look up the definition of "imminent".

Pretty sad when you quote a definition of the phrase that is counter to your argument.