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  • Restaurant bans tipping.

    Seems like a good idea. I've never really got why tips were around to begin with any way. Up the cost of the food a bit, give the servers a real livable wage, and expect them to provide the same service you would expect out of any place that doesn't accept tips. lol @ the last line.



    Sushi Yasuda has made headlines for its mouth-watering sushi and excellent service for more than a decade, but the restaurant is getting noticed now for a different reason: banning tips.

    "The diner doesn't [have to] think about how much to leave and make calculations [after] a contemplative and special meal," co-founder Scott Rosenberg said. "We're really sort of just staying connected to that classical approach [of fine Japanese dining]."

    In keeping with the pared-down aesthetic of the business, owners of the New York City restaurant earlier this year decided they would no longer ask patrons to do any complicated math at the end of the night.

    Instead of relying on tips, all their servers are on salary with paid vacation and sick leave.

    Rosenberg said the goal was to enhance the restaurant experience for customers.

    The high-end restaurant, which seats only 45 and where the omakase, or chef's menu, can easily run beyond $100, also raised its prices slightly to allow for servers to be put on salary.

    Daisy Chung, executive director for Restaurant Opportunities Center of New York, a nonprofit that supports restaurant workers, said she thought the practice of banning tips and providing a salary with benefits was a "good idea."

    "It started a good conversation about tips and restaurant compensation," Chung said, adding that inclement weather, for instance, is something that deters diners and thereby limits tips no matter how good the service.
    "We definitely feel there shouldn't be a separate system where tip workers rely on tips to subsidize their wages," Chung said. "Workers should be fully compensated."
    None of the staffers at Sushi Yasuda was available to comment and it's unclear how much they make in salary.

    Banning tips can also smooth the process on the management side of a restaurant, said Andrew Moesel, spokesman for the New York City chapter of the New York State Restaurant Association.

    "It also can be easier for the house," Moesel said. "Wage and tip lawsuits are on the rise, since rules are becoming increasingly complicated."
    Moesel knows of no other New York City restaurants that have banished tips, but he said the practice has gained traction at other high-end dining restaurants, including a few in Chicago where the entire meal is paid for beforehand.

    "Whether or not this is a culinary trend, this is something we're seeing more of," Moesel said.

    Rosenberg said one of Sushi Yasuda's biggest challenges was explaining to customers that they could no longer tip. They put a note in both the menu and receipt explaining that customers did not need to tip, but many patrons were still bewildered.

    "They'd look up at dinner partner or partners and say, 'There's s no tipping'" Rosenberg said. "[There's] a moment of [people saying], 'Wait a minute, what?' And then, 'OK, that sounds good.'"

    A few customers still tried to write in a tip on the receipt, even though there was no longer a tip line. The restaurant eventually started circling the explanation on the receipt in red to draw the customer's attention.

    Rosenberg said that once customers realize they don't have to pay a tip, they are usually delighted.

    "One [young guy] said, 'I'm going to eat 20 percent more sushi," Rosenberg said.

  • #2
    Tips are annoying. I always tip 15-20% unless less is earned, but damn that's a lot extra on top of already over-priced food.
    Originally posted by MR EDD
    U defend him who use's racial slurs like hes drinking water.

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    • #3
      how is this a classic approach to fine Japanese dining? I thought all Asians loved math??

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      • #4
        I know in Europe a tip was not expected, and the staff was paid a wage. We tipped because they helped us with the menu and had to put up with americans that dont speak thier language.

        Im Ok with tips going away too. Then waitstaff will have to find something else to bitch about.
        "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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        • #5
          Tips wouldn't be going away...they would just become mandatory even despite bad service. "Gratuity Included" on every bill. How much did he raise prices? 10%? 15%? 20%? Also, your average Chili's or On The Border could not afford to do this especially with ObamaCare.
          2004 Z06 Commemorative Ed.

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          • #6
            Having been a waiter in the past I can see this from both sides, personally I liked the tip system. However I also worked in a family owned place with lots of regulars that tipped good and would request specific waiters. It worked out good for me being in college, flexible schedule and usually made at least $20 an hour.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Baron View Post
              I know in Europe a tip was not expected, and the staff was paid a wage. We tipped because they helped us with the menu and had to put up with americans that dont speak thier language.
              Japan is the same way...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Randy View Post
                how is this a classic approach to fine Japanese dining? I thought all Asians loved math??
                i lol'd randy!

                god bless.
                It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men -Frederick Douglass

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TorqueJunkie View Post
                  Japan is the same way...
                  As is Australia.
                  Originally posted by lincolnboy
                  After watching Games of Thrones, makes me glad i was not born in those years.

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                  • #10
                    Oh god.
                    Originally posted by davbrucas
                    I want to like Slow99 since people I know say he's a good guy, but just about everything he posts is condescending and passive aggressive.

                    Most people I talk to have nothing but good things to say about you, but you sure come across as a condescending prick. Do you have an inferiority complex you've attempted to overcome through overachievement? Or were you fondled as a child?

                    You and slow99 should date. You both have passive aggressiveness down pat.

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                    • #11
                      11 posts in and no one is flexing nuts on how big a tipper they are??? where my 21% balla's at?

                      god bless.
                      It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men -Frederick Douglass

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by slow99 View Post
                        Oh god.
                        The Theology Corner
                        "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by slow99 View Post
                          Oh god.

                          You know you love these threads!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ELVIS View Post
                            11 posts in and no one is flexing nuts on how big a tipper they are??? where my 21% balla's at?

                            god bless.
                            Man I always tip 2.1% that's nothing!!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ELVIS View Post
                              11 posts in and no one is flexing nuts on how big a tipper they are??? where my 21% balla's at?

                              god bless.
                              I tipped a waiter a cow skin rug at The Sizzler once.
                              Originally posted by PGreenCobra
                              I can't get over the fact that you get to go live the rest of your life, knowing that someone made a Halloween costume out of you. LMAO!!
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                              dont downshift!!
                              Go do a whooly in front of a Peterbilt.

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