Don't call the cops

[03trubluGT]

Matt, you can just continue trying to kick everyones ass in here; no need to vanish for a week, then start the same yawn inducing threats in another thread.

By "everyone" you mean you and Brent?


Way to draw attention to yourself you pathetic whore.

It's funny how you are the common denominator in these episodes, yet it's "my" fault. If you need any further proof, just think about this thread had died, yet you want to TTT and draw attention to our drama.

Go ahead and see who calls out who first.

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen..


Oh wait, with your gender, you belong in the kitchen.....

Matt, you can just continue trying to kick everyones ass in here; no need to vanish for a week, then start the same yawn inducing threats in another thread.

[mikec]

dcs13, I can't believe you actually bit on that. Lol.

[dcs13]

I'm guessing that number has gone up a little more...

I'm guessing you don't count domestic terrorists, because just in 2012 alone, they killed 88 people....

February 22, 2012—Five people were killed in at a Korean health spa in Norcross, Georgia, when a man opened fire inside the facility in an act suspected to be related to domestic violence.

February 26, 2012—Multiple gunmen began firing into a nightclub crown in Jackson, Tennessee, killing one person and injuring 20 others.

February 27, 2012—Three students at Chardon High School in rural Ohio were killed when a classmate opened fire.

March 8, 2012—Two people were killed and seven wounded at a psychiatric hospital in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, when a gunman entered the hospital with two semiautomatic handguns and began firing.

March 31, 2012—A gunman opened fire on a crowd of mourners at a North Miami, Florida, funeral home, killing two people and injuring 12 others.

April 2, 2012—A 43-year-old former student at Oikos University in Oakland, California, walked into his former school and killed seven people, “execution-style.” Three people were wounded.

April 6, 2012—Two men went on a deadly shooting spree in Tulsa, Oklahoma, shooting black men at random in an apparently racially motivated attack. Three men died and two were wounded.

May 29, 2012—A man in Seattle, Washington, opened fire in a coffee shop and killed five people and then himself.

July 9, 2012—At a soccer tournament in Wilmington, Delaware, three people were killed, including a 16-year-old player and the event organizer, when multiple gunmen began firing shots, apparently targeting the organizer.

July 20, 2012—James Holmes enters a midnight screening of The Dark Knight Rises and opens fire with a semi-automatic weapon; twelve people are killed and fifty-eight are wounded.

August 5, 2012—A white supremacist and former Army veteran shot six people to death inside a Sikh temple in suburban Milwaukee, Wisconsin, before killing himself.

August 14, 2012—Three people were killed at Texas A&M University when a 35-year-old man went on a shooting rampage; one of the dead was a police officer.

September 27, 2012—A 36-year-old man who had just been laid off from Accent Signage Systems in Minneapolis, Minnesota, entered his former workplace and shot five people to death, and wounded three others before killing himself.

October 21, 2012—45-year-old Radcliffe Frankin Haughton shot three women to death, including his wife, Zina Haughton, and injured four others at a spa in Brookfield, Wisconsin, before killing himself.

December 11, 2012—A 22-year-old began shooting at random at a mall near Portland, Oregon, killing two people and then himself.

December 14, 2012—One man, and possibly more, murders a reported twenty-six people at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, including twenty children, before killing himself.

[Forever_frost]

Exactly. It's not like the Grand Jury is chosen by the city and has a vested interest in limiting city lawsuits since they are usually taxpayers who have to pay for it

[The King]

A grand jury, whether it works or not, isn't going to give this man his life back or give his grandkids back their grandpa.

[Broncojohnny]

It's not about knowing or not knowing how a grand jury works. It's about the broken system itself.


When shit like this (see below) is going on it's hard to have ANY trust that the process will yield justice.

You mean to tell me that the DA has a vested interest in covering up the fuck ups of the PD? Well now, that is just crazy talk. You would think it would be fair and honest since they never ever work together.

[chpmustang]

There'll most likely be no dash cam or microphone recording of the altercation,if there "was" a recording the data will likely be corrupted or some other stupid reason.

[ELVIS]

drOpPIn' sCieNcE on dat ass

god bless.

[Strychnine]

This proves you have no idea how a grand jury works.

It's not about knowing or not knowing how a grand jury works. It's about the broken system itself.


When shit like this (see below) is going on it's hard to have ANY trust that the process will yield justice.

Albuquerque officer cleared in 'spoon' shooting
By RUSSELL CONTRERAS, Associated Press
Updated 4:46 pm, Wednesday, May 29, 2013


ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) — Bernalillo County authorities announced Wednesday that prosecutors won't seek charges against an Albuquerque police officer who fatally shot a man reportedly holding a black plastic spoon during a 2011 confrontation with police.

In a statement, the Second Judicial District Attorney's Office said an internal review found that officer Sean Wallace was justified in shooting Alan Gomez, 22, in May 2011. "We have found no probable cause to believe that Officer Sean Wallace committed a crime, and thus we will not present charges against Officer Sean Wallace to a charging grand jury or preliminary hearing," District Attorney Kari E. Brandenburg and Chief Deputy District Attorney Mark Drebing wrote in a letter to Albuquerque Police Chief Ray Schultz.

Wallace shot Gomez after Gomez allegedly held his brother and his brother's girlfriend against their will at an Albuquerque house. His brother, Eric Gomez, later said he hadn't felt as though he was being held prisoner.

Officers were dispatched to the home after Eric's girlfriend reported that Alan had a gun and she was being held inside, according to the initial 911 call provided by police. The woman told the dispatcher she didn't know what was wrong with Alan and asked officials to "please hurry."

Police had also received reports that Gomez was armed and had fired a rifle outside the home, but he came out to talk to officers and was reportedly holding only a black plastic spoon when shot in the back while walking into the house.

Police have shot more than two dozen people since 2010, killing 18 and sparking protests and outrage among activists in the city. The Gomez shooting was widely criticized because he was reportedly unarmed and shot in the back.

The U.S. Justice Department is investigating claims of excessive force by Albuquerque police.

Michael Gomez, the father of Alan Gomez, told The Associated Press on Wednesday that he was "gravely disappointed" about the district attorney's decision but not surprised. "She's just there to cover up whatever they do," Gomez said. "She's ruled that all police shootings are justified, so I'm not shocked at all."

Brandenburg has been criticized for her office's controversial, decades-old practice of using grand jury panels to affirm decisions that no probable cause existed to charge police officers in shootings. Most district attorneys in New Mexico and around the country resolve police shooting cases with an internal investigation.

Under a revamped system, county prosecutors decide whether there's probable cause that a crime was committed and then present the case to a grand jury to decide. But all shootings reviewed have been ruled justified.

The Gomez family has filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Wallace and the police department. The lawsuit said the department hired Sean Wallace despite two previous excessive force claims against him while a state police officer.

Wallace, now a K-9 officer with Albuquerque police, was a New Mexico State Police officer when he shot and killed Leo Lopez of Chimayo in 2004. He was cleared by a grand jury, but the state paid $235,000 to settle a wrongful death lawsuit.

In January 2010, he shot Wayne Cordova, who was on an Albuquerque rooftop crying and asking to be killed. Cordova survived.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/Albuquerque-officer-cleared-in-spoon-shooting-4558291.php#ixzz2UmsTpv6g

[Gtracer]

Mike, u-tube, you start watching oh lets say model airplane videos ---bam---3 hours later you are watching blue balled Tibetan yaks spit on unwitting tourists. You have no idea how you wound up looking at that, and lost 3 hours of your life

So true..

[mikec]

I'm guessing that number has gone up a little more...

[dcs13]

There's just no way that we kill that many patients accidentally each year.

Numbers are from Department of Health and Human Services. Your friendky goverment agency...And I bet that's even a low ball figure. No one wants to code a patient death "accidental"...that invites a law suit...

And I posted the gun owner numbers simply for a reference to "accidental" shootings. Obviously that was by the general population, but at least some "number" for reference on the number of people killed .

Just perspective ...Kinda like people bitching about $4 a gallon gas, but they will buy a quart of cold water at QT for $1.29 all day long. The never realize they just paid over $5 a gallon for the water...

[Machx2]

Most Doctors have an investment in their patients. Their reputation is at stake, as well as that person's life. There are exceptions of course. Police don't have as much vested interest in citizens as Doctors have in patients.

I would say it depends on who you are looking at. I have a great deal of invested interest in the citizens I have worked for. I have been with 3 departments, and you can go talk to the people in each of those cities and not many will have a bad thing to say about me, it is because I tend to be polite and professional. I also don't walk around like I am king of the castle. I view policing as a calling, not a job. I went out every day trying to help someone. Now I am with a school pd, which I feel is a better fit for me since I am your easy going type and try to change the way law enforcement is looked at by kids. I would say I have met many officers who don't care about citizens at all and just want that check. I would agree that doctors tend to be more caring than officers in general. Sad but true.

[Forever_frost]

The important difference is that doctors don't come out of the woodwork defending shitty doctors. Or constantly blame the patient.

Or, force you into an interaction with them. When was the last time a doctor kicked in someone's door with a scalpel and killed the home owner's dog and then the home owner?