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  • Dr Dave isn't the only one that hates fat people (39% of medical students do too)

    WINSTON-SALEM, N.C., – May 23, 2013 – Two out of five medical students have an unconscious bias against obese people, according to a new study by researchers at Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center. The study is published online ahead of print in the Journal of Academic Medicine.

    “Bias can affect clinical care and the doctor-patient relationship, and even a patient’s willingness or desire to go see their physician, so it is crucial that we try to deal with any bias during medical school,” said David Miller, M.D., associate professor of internal medicine at Wake Forest Baptist and leadauthor of the study.

    “Previous research has shown that on average, physicians have a strong anti-fat bias similar to that of the general population. Doctors are more likely to assume that obese individuals won’t follow treatment plans, and they are less likely to respect obese patients than average weight patients,” Miller said.

    Miller and colleagues conducted the study as part of their efforts to update the medical school’s curriculum on obesity. The goal was to measure the prevalence of unconscious weight-related biases among medical students and to determine whether the students were aware of those biases.

    The three-year study included more than 300 third-year medical students at a medical school in the southeastern United States from 2008 through 2011. The students were geographically diverse, representing at least 25 different states and 12 countries outside the United States.

    The researchers used acomputer program called the Weight Implicit Association Test (IAT) to measures students’ unconscious preferences for “fat” or “thin” individuals. Students also answered a survey assessing their conscious weight-related preferences. The authors determined if the students were aware of their bias by seeing if their IAT results matched their stated preferences.

    Overall, 39 percent of medical students had a moderate to strong unconscious anti-fat bias as compared to 17 percent who had a moderate to strong anti-thin bias. Less than 25percent of students were aware of their biases.

    “Because anti-fat stigma is so prevalent and a significant barrier to the treatment of obesity, teaching medical students to recognize and mitigate this bias is crucial to improving the care for the two-thirds of American adults who are now overweight or obese,” Miller said. “Medical schools should address weight bias as part of a comprehensive obesity curriculum.”

    While this study did not address which teaching strategies are most effective, Miller said that a prerequisite to combating prejudice is to first acknowledge its existence. At Wake Forest Baptist, all third-year medical students in the family medicine clerkship must complete the online IAT, and then participate in an in-class discussion of their experience with bias. In addition, students must accept that their bias could affect their actions and adopt new strategies to mitigate bias, he said.

    As part of their efforts to reform curriculum, the Wake Forest Baptist team created an on-line educational module about fat bias and stigmatization, which is freely available at www.newlifestyle.org.

    The study was funded by grant 1R25CA117887-01A from the National Cancer Institute.

    Co-authors of the study are John Spangler, M.D., Mara Vitolins, Dr.PH., Stephen Davis, M.S., Edward Ip, Ph.D., Gail Marion, Ph.D., and Sonia Crandall, Ph.D., of Wake Forest Baptist.

    Media Relations Contacts:

    Marguerite Beck: marbeck@wakehealth.edu, 336-716-2415

    Bonnie Davis: bdavis@wakehealth.edu, 336-716-4977

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    I am not a doctor, but I do hate me some fat people.
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    • #3
      figured they'd love them with all the bills they can charge.

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      • #4
        Mandatory obese insurance premiums

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        • #5
          Originally posted by TeeShock View Post
          Mandatory obese insurance premiums
          This! If you want to be fat, cool, want to smoke, no problemo, but you can play in your own pool and pay the assoicated rates.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by 03mustangdude View Post
            figured they'd love them with all the bills they can charge.
            My wife is in medicine, the fatter you are the more complications and thus higher cost you are to both the system and the doctors bottom line. Medicine ain't what it used to be as far as billing goes. "Choo Choo" money is much harder to come by for medical professionals.
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            • #7
              My doctor at the VA claimed everything that was wrong with me was weight related. Migraines? Being fat. Back out of sorts? (hit by a semi) weight related. Pneumonia? Weight related. It got to the point I asked her if she hated fatties because she was one when she was younger.

              The look of revulsion and horror was priceless. I didn't have another PCM for 3 years
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              • #8
                Originally posted by lowfast View Post
                This! If you want to be fat, cool, want to smoke, no problemo, but you can play in your own pool and pay the assoicated rates.
                Surcharge 'em, but then genetic testing could start becoming the norm for setting insurance rates as well.

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                • #9
                  You could say healthcare workers in general do

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                  • #10
                    What if you're fat but healthy? What would you base premiums on? BMI?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by FullSizeMike View Post
                      What if you're fat but healthy?
                      You just went full retard.
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                      • #12
                        BMI would be a terrible indicator, so if you are muscular, in great shape, 8% BF you can easily rank as overweight from BMI. BMI is for all the skinny-fat people who lift nothing more than a file folder durring the week and a 12oz on the weekend.
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                        • #13
                          Did I? Ever meet someone that has HPB or high cholesterol and they're fit? Or how about juvenile diabetes? Should I pay higher premiums than someone that has these? I don't have high anything. My grandad was a fatass when he died at 89. I'm just saying, everyone's not created equal. The insurance companies make plenty of money off "healthy" people I assure you.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by lowfast View Post
                            BMI would be a terrible indicator, so if you are muscular, in great shape, 8% BF you can easily rank as overweight from BMI. BMI is for all the skinny-fat people who lift nothing more than a file folder durring the week and a 12oz on the weekend.

                            Funny you say that, just had that talk with my dr. I'm pretty sure BMI is used for life insurance. I'm supposed to weigh 175, but after a body comp results was told with 0% bf I'd be 215. For me 175 would be a long way from a healthy weight.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by The King View Post
                              Surcharge 'em, but then genetic testing could start becoming the norm for setting insurance rates as well.
                              With the way regulations are headed, they're going to start docking doctor reimbursements for repeated hospitalizations for the same chronic illness, i.e. a diabetic is hospitalized twice in the same month for complications due to diabetes.

                              If you think about it, obesity is a matter of patient non-compliance and there are very few obese individuals who are actually in good health. Them's the brakes. Someone who is "all muscle" but "overweight" is the exception, not the rule.

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