My cousin needs some help.

[Snatch Napkin]

Six months ago, he bought a 2007 Chevrolet Z71 with the 5.3l motor. He had issues with the motor burning 2 quarts of oil in between oil changes of 3500 miles. The truck had 91,000 miles when he bought it and it came with a warranty.

The dealership that he bought it at replaced the pistons, rings, and bearings under warranty. He got his truck back March 7 of this year and has put 3200 miles on it. It is still burning the same amount of oil, but they refuse to do anything about it.

The dealership is claiming that Chevrolet has an allowance of 2 quarts of oil burned in between changes.

Is there a Lemon Law for used cars in Texas? Does he have any option to get them to buy the truck back?

His previous truck with a 5.3 didn't burn a drop of oil and it had 270,000 miles. My dad's truck with a 5.3 doesn't use any oil.

[White_lightning]

Six months ago, he bought a 2007 Chevrolet Z71 with the 5.3l motor. He had issues with the motor burning 2 quarts of oil in between oil changes of 3500 miles. The truck had 91,000 miles when he bought it and it came with a warranty.

The dealership that he bought it at replaced the pistons, rings, and bearings under warranty. He got his truck back March 7 of this year and has put 3200 miles on it. It is still burning the same amount of oil, but they refuse to do anything about it.

The dealership is claiming that Chevrolet has an allowance of 2 quarts of oil burned in between changes.

Is there a Lemon Law for used cars in Texas? Does he have any option to get them to buy the truck back?

His previous truck with a 5.3 didn't burn a drop of oil and it had 270,000 miles. My dad's truck with a 5.3 doesn't use any oil.

lemon law is only for NEW cars not almost 100k mile trucks.

@ almost 100k miles i wouldnt be surprised if it burns some oil. some do .. some dont.. hell some 01 Z0s burned that NEW lol.

[shumpertdavid]

Gm will state that 1 quart per 500-1000 miles is considered normal consumption. The ls based engines have had a reputation for oil consumption sadly along with piston slap too. I've had many customers with trucks bought new that haven't had any oil loss issues, but several that complained about it. My parents have an 01 with a 5.3 and 150k+ that doesn't use any.

If he's running synthetic tell him to switch back to a conventional oil.

[Ted]

I haven't had any problems like that with the 07 I had or the 13. Both 5.3s

[Big A]

lemon law is only for NEW cars not almost 100k mile trucks.

@ almost 100k miles i wouldnt be surprised if it burns some oil. some do .. some dont.. hell some 01 Z0s burned that NEW lol.

Yeah, buyer beware on a used car, regardless of where/who it was purchased from. That's why they sell extended warrantees.

[Snatch Napkin]

I've found that some states have a lemon law for used cars, but it seems that Texas does not.

[mustangguy289]

Did the 2007 have the "AFM" 5.3? Do some research ...almost all of the earlier 5.3 AFM (active fuel management) aluminim motors burn crazy amounts of oil. The more highway driving the more oil you will burn. If under factory warranty they will first do an oil consumption test. If it shows to lose excessive amounts of oil the dealership will try a few different things including oil baffles, valve covers, rings, pistons etc. According to some research...none of these are garunteed to permanently fix the problem...sometimes they work and sometimes they don't.

The problem is oil deposits in the dead cylinders causing rings to stick when the AFM is active.

Shitty GM products will always be shitty GM products.

2011 Ecoboost-3600 miles since last oil change and not a drop of oil consumed. (60k miles on the clock)
2013 Ford 5.0 - 3000 miles since last oil change and not a drop of oil consumed.

Chevy- "It is normal to burn a qt or so every 1000 miles".

[Treybiz]

My 04 Silverado didn't burn anything noticable between oil changes at all and I sold it just north of 100k..

My 07 has burned at least a quart between changes since I purchased it at 38k a few years ago. I am approaching 110k this week and it still burns about the same amount. It smokes on start up ocassionally but no other noticable effects. Sounds fine, makes plenty of power (for what it is), and runs at normal temps/oil pressure.

[Big A]

I've found that some states have a lemon law for used cars, but it seems that Texas does not.

What state will lemon law a 6 year old 91k mile truck? I could see it on something newer, but wear and tear happens, and why only recently did factory warrantees start covering up to 100k.

[mustangguy289]

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f53/my-truck-has-infamous-5-3l-oil-consumption-problem-106584/

http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/272078/

[JC316]

Texas lemon law only applies to new vehicles. Repairs covered should be outlined in the warranty contract, but if GM states that it's normal, he is screwed.

[Jesse]

My 2001 burns a quart of oil every 3000 miles . Bought it new , always done it , have 140000 on it with no other issues .

[Snatch Napkin]

Gm will state that 1 quart per 500-1000 miles is considered normal consumption. The ls based engines have had a reputation for oil consumption sadly along with piston slap too. I've had many customers with trucks bought new that haven't had any oil loss issues, but several that complained about it. My parents have an 01 with a 5.3 and 150k+ that doesn't use any.

If he's running synthetic tell him to switch back to a conventional oil.

[any redneck with an antique 5.0] Horse shit! My mustang don't burn a drop and it's 240,000 miles on it. Hell, it weren't broke in 'til 130,000.[/redneck rant]


He's running conventional. I thought synthetics didn't burn as fast.

[Snatch Napkin]

He still has 8,000 miles left on the warranty that the dealership gave him after the piston job. He does have the AFM shit. He gets horrendous fuel mileage. Can that be turned off?

What state will lemon law a 6 year old 91k mile truck? I could see it on something newer, but wear and tear happens, and why only recently did factory warrantees start covering up to 100k.

California has some pretty wacky shit on their books.

Used-Car Lemon Laws
The frequency and severity of consumers' used-car problems has led some state legislatures to pass new laws. Currently, though, only six states — Connecticut, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New Jersey, New Mexico and New York — have used-car lemon laws on the books. The laws provide a statutory used-car warranty, often based upon the age or mileage of the vehicle. If the vehicle exhibits problems during the warranty period, the dealer gets a chance to repair them. If those fixes don't work after several tries, the dealer usually must either replace the car or refund the buyer's money.

At least seven states have some other form of used-car buyers' rights, requiring used-car warranties or setting minimum standards for the sale of used cars: They are Arizona, Connecticut, Illinois, Maine, Nevada, New Mexico and Pennsylvania. Still other states, including North Carolina, have an unfair and deceptive practices statute that buyers can invoke. But only those states with true used-car lemon laws require the dealer to provide a replacement or refund for the car.

Beginning in 2013, people who buy their used cars at "buy-here, pay-here" car dealerships in California get an extra measure of used-car lemon protection. (Buy-here, pay-here dealerships are a particular kind of used-car business, specializing in older, high-mileage vehicles and catering to consumers who can't qualify for conventional car loans.)

A new California law requires buy-here, pay-here dealerships to issue 30-day/1,000-mile warranties for the used vehicles they lease or sell. The existence of that warranty also gives buy-here, pay-here customers additional protection under the federal lemon law, the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. More about that later.

http://www.edmunds.com/auto-warranty/my-used-cars-a-lemon-am-i-stuck-with-it.html

[slow99]

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