For anyone that cares...Moore OK. is about to be leveled by an EF4 LIVE

[KBScobravert]

Wife, kid and MIL are on the way up to OKC from DFW for a funeral (not related) today. I can imagine traffic is gonna be crazy.

[dee]

I did most of my growing up in tornado alley from Kansas to N. Dakota.

A lot of that was spent in a storm cellar. Our biggest fear was having a tree or some piece of heavy equipment fall on the door so we had a couple of 20 ton bottle jacks and assorted 4x4s in the corner.

A good while back my parents house got hit by one the warning was short enough we couldn't make it to the cellar that was maybe 10' from the house. Talk about some spooky shit being in a house while roof was being ripped off. For the next three years every time it would storm we would head to the cellar.

[SS Junk]

A total of 24 kids were in the main hall like they were instructed to do. The roof collapsed then the water lines broke and they drowned from being pinned under the roof.

The only thing that can make sense for me is-
"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, says the LORD." - Isaiah 55:8

[ceyko]

Do schools not build tornado shelters these days? Especially after 1999's hit?

I think you have to define "build tornado shelters"...

I've seen new schools with the signs, but anything above ground really is not going to be able to with stand a EF4-5. Most new (TX, have not seen OK schools) are a lot of CMU and steel - they have signs for shelter areas (usually). I think they'd help a lot for EF-3 and below.

So when I say it needs to be defined - technically there is a shelter, but it's a lot like a safe room. You can feel confident about EF3 and below - but anything can happen for EF4-5. Only safe place is below ground, and I do not see many schools with a big underground facility. (A lot of HS stadiums have underground space though)

[SMKR]

That can't be right. That's like 200 miles as the crow flies isn't it?

250-ish miles away


Check this out-

@wacotrib: RT @AriWeather: Just crazy... RT @KOCOdamonlane: Debris from Moore Oklahoma falling in Branson, MO. 250 miles away #okwx

[SMKR]

So sad.

I wouldn't live in that part of Oklahoma without having a basement

[Roscoe]

Thanks man!
I ended up grabbing my dads spare truck and made a few shuttle runs of people from the neighborhood that I could drive through to the shelter down the road.
The national guard ended up rolling in and blocking everything off, so I had to leave the area.



Thanks bro.




There have been some truly amazing people today also, several that lost everything immediately ran from their homes to the elementary school and started digging to try and save lives.

Glad you and your's are ok, Mike. Hard to fathom the loss...

[no4njnk]

My wife and I were going to donate some clothes to Goodwill this weekend but now want to donate them so the people of Moore can have access to them. Does anyone know where we can donate these to?

[juiceweezl]

Just generally, how much does something like that cost to build?

It's like buying a car. You can get the simple, steel shelters that you set up in the garage for as little as $3500. These are the shelters that take up space in the garage -- space you can no longer use for its intended purpose. I'd say the typical one of these is closer to $5-6K though.

Then there are the ones that are meant to be "hidden" and functional. This is typically used with new construction and remodels. This is where you take like the master bedroom closet or the wash room and make it a shelter. You use special panels and framing on the walls here to make it resist windborne debris. You have a door that swings inward that can resist a direct impact from a 100 mph 2x4 'missile'. After installation, you can't really tell that the space is a shelter. Most people install a second, functional door in the space and would only use the 'vault door' in the event of an emergency. The door is one of the most expensive parts of the room.

Here's a link to a panel manufacturer: http://www.stormblocker.com/

Here's a link to the DuPont shelter: http://www2.dupont.com/Stormroom/en_US/ It uses kevlar.

Watch some of the test videos of these rooms to see how they work. It's impressive. You can expect $8K minimum installed cost on something like this and possibly more depending on the size of the room.

[Baron Von Crowder]

All of my extended family have checked in, everyone is ok as far as I know, Im getting second or third hand info.

A team I race with is based in Moore. Everyone is ok, according to the checkin they posted this morning. They arent able to get to thier shop, but it is supposed to be about 2 miles north of the main damage. Apparently the storm was dropping mail in Branson, according to his post.

[68RR]

Was a long night.. Went to work on afternoon shift at American here in Tulsa and shortly after 3 they shut the base down and sent everyone to the safe rooms. Gave the all clear around 4 but all night long the intercom was giving warnings of wind, lightning, heavy rain and flooding. Glad to hear the death count has been lowered, but I still hurt for all the people in Moore..

[silverhatch]

My wife and I were going to donate some clothes to Goodwill this weekend but now want to donate them so the people of Moore can have access to them. Does anyone know where we can donate these to?

I know Total eye-care in Denton is working on loading a trailer now.

[SS Junk]

CNN was showing footage of kids wondering around yelling out for their parents. Jesus...

[redrocket5.0]

Terrible thing, I watched it live from work and my brother was in Norman working at his job and said they were to stay there and take shelter. Said he could hear and feel its power. I couldn't imagine.

[bcoop]

I know Total eye-care in Denton is working on loading a trailer now.

Yep. Check facebook. People all over have trailers set up for donations. If worse comes to worse, let me know, and I can meet up with you. I'm headed to the farm this weekend. I usually go up 177, but the long way only adds about 20 minutes to my drive, and I pass through Moore if I go that direction. I'd be happy to drop some things off if you can't find a trailer set up.