should i fight this?

[motoman]

kinda like when you are at a gay bar and everyone knows you are the catcher!

It's not gay if you don't push back.

[Jester]

He would just say that the seat belt is an on-view violation and that it was the PC for the stop.

yet, once again, there is no proof that i had a belt on or off......just as there was no proof that i was speeding. just Captain Crime Fighters word...

[Jester]

exactly the same. glad we are on the same page!

god bless.

touche'

[CWO]

He would just say that the seat belt is an on-view violation and that it was the PC for the stop.

That would be a lie if he handed him the ticket that claimed he was speeding and had no mention of the seatbelt violation. Case dismissed.

[Sean88gt]

He would just say that the seat belt is an on-view violation and that it was the PC for the stop.

Well, based on his "eye" for a speeding violation that was dismissed, I would say the case could be made that he didn't accurately see the seat belt either.

[Silverback]

I'd be willing to bet, based upon the pics you posted you were speeding.

This is based on many years of beach driving.

[03trubluGT]

yet, once again, there is no proof that i had a belt on or off......just as there was no proof that i was speeding. just Captain Crime Fighters word...

His testimony is the proof.

That would be a lie if he handed him the ticket that claimed he was speeding and had no mention of the seatbelt violation. Case dismissed.

Either I'm not understanding what you are arguing, or you are wayyyy off base.

You don't have to write every violation you see. That's a chicken shit way of policing.

[03trubluGT]

Well, based on his "eye" for a speeding violation that was dismissed, I would say the case could be made that he didn't accurately see the seat belt either.

Guessing speed is not the same as a seat belt. You either had it on or you didn't and the OP has already admitted guilt that he didn't have it on.

[03trubluGT]

was at Crystal Beach in Galveston County for Jeep Go Topless weekend. There were a little over 400 jeeps out there. we would drive up and down the beach or park and play. Me and a few others went and played in the little washout. The washout was deep in a few spots so we would zig zag back and forth in it splashing around. anyway, long story short, i play for about 2 minutes and turn around to go park. by the time i am parking a galveston cop lights me up. he doesnt do the normal "do you know why i stopped you" routine. This little fella is a hispanic gent that is maybe 25 and very wet behind the ears He just walks up and gets my insurance and liscense.......here is how our interaction went after waiting about 10 minutes:

Cop: sign here this is not an admissions of guilt.....blah blah blah

Me: You are seriously giving me a ticket?

Cop: This is public land and the speed limit is 15 mph

Me: Oh, so you had a radar and clocked me going over 15?

Cop: no

Me: so we are just going off of your wild ass guess on my speed? we were playing in the washout and there is no way i got over 10!

Cop: Well i could go ahead and write you a ticket for no seatbelt (this i was guilty of......in and out of the jeep all day with no doors on the jeep.....didnt wear a belt}

me: no dude, i know how this works and i cant win so just give me the ticket

Cop: do you have any more questions

Me: Not at all Mr Crime Fighter! Keep fighting these awful crimes you are doing an excellent job!

Thus endeth the exchange

So....I got excessive speed in the washout.

I have zero problems handling any and all tickets i have ever received in the past, but this is plain old horse shit.

See my above post.

[Jester]

I'd be willing to bet, based upon the pics you posted you were speeding.

This is based on many years of beach driving.

you'd be wrong.

trust me, at 15 mph or more, it blows a wall of water over the top of my jeep and right on into the cab. Learned this a long time ago. Plus, we were going slow enough to make sure we didnt run off into any deep spots.

The pictures are perfect for defending me. Was talking to a buddy and we r going to take a few pics to show what it would have looked like had I been going 15. You wouldnt have seen my jeep

[Jester]

Ok, just for shits and giggles and to see if I actually was going over 15, I just took the jeep across the pasture until i hit 15mph and then i hit the creek washout by the house...............yeah, so i just fucking blew a wall of muddy water 10 feet high over the top of the jeep and soaked the shit out of it.

This concludes my test. lol

Now im gonna pull some drain plugs and hose it out.

[Jester]

WATCHOUT, WE GOT A BADASS OVER HERE!!!!!! LAW BREAKER!!!!!!!!!!!! lmao

[Sean88gt]

Guessing speed is not the same as a seat belt. You either had it on or you didn't and the OP has already admitted guilt that he didn't have it on.

He admitted here, but not necessarily in person. Hard to get a wallet out when you're belted. And is a seat belt required offroad or on a beach?

[Jester]

if I would have gotten a "no seatbelt" violation, we wouldnt be having this conversation. I have no problem admitting guilt when guilty. Had PLENTY of speeding tickets when i was younger and was guilty of all of them......and was glad that the a few cops were cool and gave me a few mph off as im sure you can relate. This was honestly a bunch of bullshit though.

[01-GATOR]

FTP
stop breaking the law asshole