What's the 'danger zone' for a child's temp?

[davbrucas]

I respect that...you did the research and arent basing your decisions on someone else's decisions or some fad.

[8mpg]

That's something we will have to address should we ever have to cross that bridge. I don't regret our decision a single bit. I've seen firsthand the differences. I'll take my chances, and my wife agrees. Our decision was based on thousands of hours of research, talking to professionals, etc. Hell, even one of the nurses in the delivery room supported our decision 110% (she had made the same decisions with her family).

did you see that the vaccination/Autism scare for the last decade ended up being a hoax? The main research guy faked his data?

I support you going with your belief...but it took 10 years for the truth to come out.

[bcoop]

did you see that the vaccination/Autism scare for the last decade ended up being a hoax? The main research guy faked his data?

I support you going with your belief...but it took 10 years for the truth to come out.

I started to read it, but didn't have the time to read fully, and give it my full attention I just haven't had the time to dedicate to read it fully. I do have it bookmarked, and will look in to it further this weekend.

What little I did get to read, seemed like he went after the MMR shot specifically. Whereas the research we did, did not seem to point to MMR specifically, but any shots containing thimerosol (which is far more than just the MMR shot). It's not like I read that one guy's views, and decided upon it. Again, we put it a ton of time doing research from several sources.

[Leah]

Well, I thought we were going to be out of the woods. Aly had a normal temp around 11:30 this am until about 4 then it started creeping back up. She fell asleep and is now resting.

The only thing that worries me at this point (since we are able to control her temp) is her fluids. She is just not eating/drinking much at all. I've been forcing her to drink gatorade and giving her popsicles but she is putting up a huge fight about it. Damn hard headed little girl. I have no idea where she got that from!

[davbrucas]

Well, I thought we were going to be out of the woods. Aly had a normal temp around 11:30 this am until about 4 then it started creeping back up. She fell asleep and is now resting.

The only thing that worries me at this point (since we are able to control her temp) is her fluids. She is just not eating/drinking much at all. I've been forcing her to drink gatorade and giving her popsicles but she is putting up a huge fight about it. Damn hard headed little girl. I have no idea where she got that from!

Just take her in and have her looked at. They should give her some IV fluids and check some labs. She may have pneumonia.

[Leah]

Just take her in and have her looked at. They should give her some IV fluids and check some labs. She may have pneumonia.

When they checked her, they said her lungs were crystal clear and her ears were perfect as well. Wouldn't she present symptoms like having trouble breathing or coughing/runny nose or something that would indicate she is coming down with that?

At this point, she says her throat is much better and her stomach isn't hurting at all anymore. It's just the fever now...

Oh, and I've gotten her to drink almost a full bottle of water within the last 1/2 hour.

[ImayBblack]

Brent I dont give her antibiotics for being sick, she gets them for ear infections. That is the only thing that can cure them, so it's not really an option. I did what the doctor told me to do, that not my fault.

[Leah]

Well, she's eating dinner, fever is gone again for the time being and she's downed some water and gatorade. I see my little monster again.

[davbrucas]

Good to hear.

[Neon131]

Good to hear.

Agreed.

[LS1Goat]

Dr. Dave made some good points. Good info.

Here is a point of view of a Paramedic. I always cringed pediatric calls of this nature. I'm always concerned about Meningitis, Encephalitis, Febrile seizures, and depending on the age range, Croup (with strider).

**Since the Strep test came back negative. And considering the time of year we are in, I'm going to go with Viral Pharyngitis i.e. sore throat

Just keep her hydrated and periodically monitor the temp. I wouldn't worry unless she showing changes in alertness/behavior or becoming withdrawn - or unable to keep down any fluids - complains of a severe headache and becomes photosensitive. One thing we use do to in field checking for severe dehydration was something called a skin turgor test. You simply pinch a chunk of skin on the arm, then let go and it should immediately go back to normal. If it's slow at return to normal, that's a sign of severe dehydration that can happen with prolonged vomiting/diarrhea.

Just treat it symptomatically with Children's Tylenol for the fever and ache. And what I do when I get a bad sore throat is buy some OTC Chloraseptic to spray back of my throat to alleviate the pain experienced when swallowing. Just a temporary relief of that "sand paper" feeling during swallowing. Hydration. And try to teach her to learn to frequently wash her hands during the day. Basic hygiene can help you avoid a lot of problems, such as this. And this is one of the primary reasons young children easily get sick. Touching stuff all day long and then rubbing their eyes or touch nose. And mostly just being around others in close quarters, like a class room.

It's just going to take time to run it's course. She should be on the mend in 7 - 10 days. I'm sure she'll be just fine. This is the time of the year when you get outbreaks of common cold, flu, sore throats, etc...

- Tim

P.s. - What method are you using to take her temp? I would suggest getting a tympanic thermometer. They are quick, easy, painless, and very accurate.

Good luck.

[Leah]

Dr. Dave made some good points. Good info.

Here is a point of view of a Paramedic. I always cringed pediatric calls of this nature. I'm always concerned about Meningitis, Encephalitis, Febrile seizures, and depending on the age range, Croup (with strider).

**Since the Strep test came back negative. And considering the time of year we are in, I'm going to go with Viral Pharyngitis i.e. sore throat

Just keep her hydrated and periodically monitor the temp. I wouldn't worry unless she showing changes in alertness/behavior or becoming withdrawn - or unable to keep down any fluids - complains of a severe headache and becomes photosensitive. One thing we use do to in field checking for severe dehydration was something called a skin turgor test. You simply pinch a chunk of skin on the arm, then let go and it should immediately go back to normal. If it's slow at return to normal, that's a sign of severe dehydration that can happen with prolonged vomiting/diarrhea.

Just treat it symptomatically with Children's Tylenol for the fever and ache. And what I do when I get a bad sore throat is buy some OTC Choraseptic to spray back of my throat to alleviate the pain experienced when swallowing. Just a temporary relief of that "sand paper" feeling during swallowing. Hydration. And try to teach her to learn to frequently wash her hands during the day. Basic hygiene can help you avoid a lot of problems, such as this. And this is one of the primary reasons young children easily get sick. Touching stuff all day long and then rubbing their eyes or touch nose. And mostly just being around others in close quarters, like a class room.

It's just going to take time to run it's course. She should be on the mend in 7 - 10 days. I'm sure she'll be just fine. This is the time of the year when you get outbreaks of common cold, flu, sore throats, etc...

- Tim

P.s. - What method are you using to take her temp? I would suggest getting a tympanic thermometer. They are quick, easy, painless, and very accurate.

Good luck.

Thanks for all the good info.

She is acting back to normal right now and her temp is normal. I've just been using a plain digital thermometer to take it. Her throat is no longer hurting and she has been eating and drinking a lot tonight. I hope the trend continues.

The Dr. did diagnose it as what you guys said-the viral thing and said it would take 3-7 days to run it's course. Today is day 4 of symptoms. I'm going to keep her home tomorrow and they have Monday off. That should get her better by Tuesday. Thank goodness it's just kindergarten-lol.

[Unicorn Jeff]

FUCK I thought this was going to be a Top Gun thread... well glad your girl is ok!

[Leah]

Thanks!

[davbrucas]

Dr. Dave made some good points. Good info.

Here is a point of view of a Paramedic. I always cringed pediatric calls of this nature. I'm always concerned about Meningitis, Encephalitis, Febrile seizures, and depending on the age range, Croup (with strider).

**Since the Strep test came back negative. And considering the time of year we are in, I'm going to go with Viral Pharyngitis i.e. sore throat

Just keep her hydrated and periodically monitor the temp. I wouldn't worry unless she showing changes in alertness/behavior or becoming withdrawn - or unable to keep down any fluids - complains of a severe headache and becomes photosensitive. One thing we use do to in field checking for severe dehydration was something called a skin turgor test. You simply pinch a chunk of skin on the arm, then let go and it should immediately go back to normal. If it's slow at return to normal, that's a sign of severe dehydration that can happen with prolonged vomiting/diarrhea.

Just treat it symptomatically with Children's Tylenol for the fever and ache. And what I do when I get a bad sore throat is buy some OTC Choraseptic to spray back of my throat to alleviate the pain experienced when swallowing. Just a temporary relief of that "sand paper" feeling during swallowing. Hydration. And try to teach her to learn to frequently wash her hands during the day. Basic hygiene can help you avoid a lot of problems, such as this. And this is one of the primary reasons young children easily get sick. Touching stuff all day long and then rubbing their eyes or touch nose. And mostly just being around others in close quarters, like a class room.

It's just going to take time to run it's course. She should be on the mend in 7 - 10 days. I'm sure she'll be just fine. This is the time of the year when you get outbreaks of common cold, flu, sore throats, etc...

- Tim

P.s. - What method are you using to take her temp? I would suggest getting a tympanic thermometer. They are quick, easy, painless, and very accurate.

Good luck.

Tympanic thermometers are notoriously inaccurate when used at home...studies show that ~25% of the time, a fever isnt even detected by the parent when using this device compared to one used at the hospital...also, the authors of a recent systematic review and meta-analysis comparing infrared tympanic and rectal thermometry concluded that infrared tympanic thermometery lacks sufficient agreement with their defined gold standard (rectal thermometry) to be used with confidence in situations where body temperature needs to be measured with precision. So take the value you see on these instruments with a grain of salt...