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  • talisman
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    Story just keeps getting deeper.


    In the wake of the revelations about the violent nature of accused marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev, investigators in the Boston suburbs tell ABC News they are probing whether he may have been involved in an unsolved grisly triple homicide of a former roommate and two others. The murders took place around the tenth anniversary of the September 11 attacks.

    "We are looking at a possible connection with the suspect in the marathon atrocity and this active and open homicide in Waltham,'' Stephanie Guyotte, a spokeswoman for the Middlesex County District Attorney, confirmed to ABC News.

    Tsarnaev, the alleged bombing mastermind who died in a fierce gun battle with police early Friday morning, had been training with one of the 2011 murder victims in an attempt to transition from boxing into a possible career in the brutal sport of mixed-martial arts.

    The victims were found in a Waltham, Massachusetts apartment. They had their throat slashed, their heads nearly decapitated. Their mutilated bodies were left covered with marijuana.

    It was a gruesome scene – but also perplexing to law enforcement. While drugs appeared to factor into the motive, the murderer left both the marijuana and thousands of dollars in cash behind in the Waltham apartment. While the investigation has been active for more than a year, authorities acknowledged they have had few leads.

    Two law enforcement sources told ABC News that may now change, with the bomb attack prompting a fresh look into Tsarnaev's alleged penchant for violence.

    Even before the bombing, police records show, there was an indication of a rage growing inside of Tsarnaev. Court documents obtained by ABC News show in July 2009 he was arrested for domestic violence after his then-girlfriend made a frantic 911 to report she was "being beat up by her boyfriend." The police report, which was redacted to hide the girlfriend's name, says that Tsarnaev admitted to responding officers that he slapped her. The case was later dismissed.

    Tsarnaev had also been close to one of the murder victims, 25-year-old Brendan Mess, investigators told ABC. The two had been training together in a local gym –each helping the other with a missing element from their fighting arsenal. Tsarnaev, a golden-gloves heavy weight boxer, lacked martial arts training. And Mess, an experienced jiu jitsu competitor, lacked boxing experience.

    The two sparred together at an Allston, MA gym called Wai Kru. The gym's head trainer, John Allan, provided a statement to the Boston Globe via Facebook message saying that Tamerlan "came into the gym to spar from time to time."

    Tsarnaev and Mess lived just a few blocks apart in Cambridge, in the same predominantly Russian neighborhood. Authorities believe there were times Mess crashed at Tsarnaev's apartment.

    It was unclear if Tsarnaev knew the other men slain, Raphael Teken, 37, and Erik Weissman, 31.

    A Waltham investigator who called the murders "the worst bloodbath I have ever seen in a long law enforcement career" said Tsarnaev has now proven he had the propensity for the type of violence that unfolded two years ago.

    "There was no forced entry, it was clear that the victims had let the killer in. And their throats were slashed right out of an al Qaeda training video. The drugs and money on the bodies was very strange," the investigator said.
    One of Mess' relatives yesterday told investigators they thought it was odd that Tsarnaev did not attend the funerals for his slain friend. The Mess relative also described animosity between the two friends "over Brendan's lifestyle,'' two law enforcement sources said. Because it is an open homicide investigation the sources were not authorized to speak on the record.

    "Given how religious the older brother was, and we have heard information from the college about how the younger brother was 'a pot head' is there a chance that Tsarnaev was angry that Brendan was selling his brother marijuana? We don't know,'' said one of those sources. "But we are certainly interested in finding out."

    Tsarnaev and Mess had been socializing together in the months before the murder, according to a Massachusetts correction officer who met up with a group of fighters that included Tsarnaev and Mess at a June 2011 Mixed Martial Arts event run by Burlington Brawl, a Vermont-based fighting outfit. Tsarnaev impressed the group with his golden gloves status, but largely kept to himself during the evening.

    "We were all drinking beers, but not that guy. He was drinking water,'' the correction officer said.

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  • naynay
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    Originally posted by mightyp View Post
    can you even have guns?
    absolutely. can you?

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  • mightyp
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    Originally posted by naynay View Post
    Im even disgusted to see that! that seems like more of a drill than the bombings. fuck all that and i dont even really own guns. i may get a shotty now just to pump that mothersucker while lookin through the peep-hole.

    shits fucked up.. and it doesnt all add up.
    can you even have guns?

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  • naynay
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    Im even disgusted to see that! that seems like more of a drill than the bombings. fuck all that and i dont even really own guns. i may get a shotty now just to pump that mothersucker while lookin through the peep-hole.

    shits fucked up.. and it doesnt all add up.

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  • Scott Mc
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    Bullshit right there, I am not the best with laws but doing home searches without warrant requires public announcement/Marshal law? Also, how many damned people live in that house? Looked like they were exiting a clown car!

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  • Snatch Napkin
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    Fuck. That.

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  • GhostTX
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    Originally posted by dville_gt View Post


    freedom!
    Portly SOB @ 2:10. Too much tacti-cool?

    Where'd the home owners get shuffled off to and when we they allowed to go back?

    I'm somewhat disgusted by seeing that.

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  • dville_gt
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    freedom!

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  • BERNIE MOSFET
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    Originally posted by naynay View Post
    makes more sense! i dont think it is "fake" by any means, its all very real. just too much that doesnt add up in my head to not question. I was thinking about it the night that it happened, or more specifically the day that they arrested a suspect, then they didnt arrest anyone. It made me think, damn here i am 1500 miles away thinking I am right on top of the story, when really all i can see is what CNN and MSNBC are showing me. And to think the FCC controls everything I am watching, then there is now way I could ever know the whole truth.

    As far as having thousands of people in on a secret, i dont think that would be necessary. you have 30 or 40 crisis actors, and everyone else (crowd, police, community) is non the wiser.

    There is some weird shit going on in the youtube links i posted with the disappearing blood and what not. Someone's got some explaining to do there!
    One of my favorite movies is "Live from Baghdad". It's about the CNN news crew that had a live feed setup and broadcast information about the first night of attacks during Desert Storm. The other networks were scooped hard and all they could do is re-air CNN's broadcast. It was probably the event that defined 24 hour news and the demand to get information out first. It was the first time I can remember being glued to the TV, hanging on every detail they could give about the operation.

    One of the things also hinted at in the film was how hard it was to keep spitting out information for hours on end. And so it's not so different now. They knowingly repeat the same information for lack of something new, which they are frantically trying to find. In their haste, they often report things incorrectly, and I think that gives fodder to conspiracy theorists. Even still, what they do report must fit the network formula because news agencies are businesses first, and journalists second.


    There's still a whole lot of ifs to make any story involving actors believable.

    Regarding the disappearing blood - networks have been busted for doctoring up stuff before. I'm not surprised a bit about it, and I'd imagine they did it to try to make the scene more palatable.

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  • naynay
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    makes more sense! i dont think it is "fake" by any means, its all very real. just too much that doesnt add up in my head to not question. I was thinking about it the night that it happened, or more specifically the day that they arrested a suspect, then they didnt arrest anyone. It made me think, damn here i am 1500 miles away thinking I am right on top of the story, when really all i can see is what CNN and MSNBC are showing me. And to think the FCC controls everything I am watching, then there is now way I could ever know the whole truth.

    As far as having thousands of people in on a secret, i dont think that would be necessary. you have 30 or 40 crisis actors, and everyone else (crowd, police, community) is non the wiser.

    There is some weird shit going on in the youtube links i posted with the disappearing blood and what not. Someone's got some explaining to do there!

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