Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

[bcoop]

Yea I agree- so what happens if someone did resist in that situation? Certainly
not everyone just steeped aside and allowed entrance.

I think everyone did step aside and allow them access. If someone had not, we'd have heard about it by now.


It also begs the question of, what would have happened had someone stood their ground, and told them to pound sand? I have not yet seen where they have taken a stance one way or the other, on whether or not martial law was declared. We'd probably have some dead homeowners. Or they would have overpowered, detained, and searched anyways. Then said homeowner could file suit against every agency involved, and get hood rich.

[90GT50]

Conspiracies abound BUT can not deny the naked guy looks like the bomber, and also who was older guy arrested with bomb that came over the scanner?

They were saying he didn't have a bomb, but a deadman trigger, still no idea what happened to him.

[Snatch Napkin]

They were saying he didn't have a bomb, but a deadman trigger, still no idea what happened to him.

They also said he had a device in his jacket.

[krazy kris]

Yea I agree- so what happens if someone did resist in that situation? Certainly
not everyone just steeped aside and allowed entrance.

You didn't hear those numerous gunshots around the area with the suspect was not in the area?

[momo]

They also said he had a device in his jacket.

everything is coded.

device = cell phone
trigger = keys
package = penis (standby)
rocket = penis (ready)

EOD = Explosives ordinance disposal (used for breaking "devices", taking "triggers" or cutting off "rockets")

Bearcat = armored vehicle, strong as a cat, fuzzy as a bear.

EDIT 157 11:55: Apparently the "jumper" was not a person, but an area where a possible bomb may have been which explains why an EOD was sent to the location.

[talisman]

I think everyone did step aside and allow them access. If someone had not, we'd have heard about it by now.


It also begs the question of, what would have happened had someone stood their ground, and told them to pound sand? I have not yet seen where they have taken a stance one way or the other, on whether or not martial law was declared. We'd probably have some dead homeowners. Or they would have overpowered, detained, and searched anyways. Then said homeowner could file suit against every agency involved, and get hood rich.

I've been wondering about that a lot myself. I never saw it clarified if they were asking to search homes, just talking with owners to determine if there was a problem, or outright demanding that homes all be searched.

[momo]

You didn't hear those numerous gunshots around the area with the suspect was not in the area?

i remember watching around 6-7am central before heading to work.

camera man tried to run and see what the commotion was but was unable to even comprehend the direction.

not sure what happened but if those were live rounds, someone or something has a lot of holes in them.

[jluv]

I'm also saddened, but not surprised, that so many people not only gave up their rights, but cheered LE on for bending them over and violating them. That's a bunch of horseshit right there, and Democrats and Republicans alike should be furious about it. I get that they were trying to find suspected terrorists. But fuck you in the neck, you aren't coming in my house without resistance.

Just playing devil's advocate here more than anything, but I am curious...

Why, in this situation, would you hold it against anyone that allowed the cops to search their homes, and why would you resist? Is it just principle?

In most situations, I would strongly defend my home against any uninvited entrance. But, in this exact situation, I think I'd probably invite them in to sweep through my home looking for the suspect. I want them to catch the guy, and if this gives me an opportunity to help, I'd be okay with it.

[grove rat]

^not answering for brent but my .02 is that the problem is that cops rush in and move you away from the scene and then after tell you what happened. i have been on ride-a-longs and saw things that did not get written down on the report. small stuff but it was not put in there on purpose. when you have hundreds of cops/fbi/whoever flush an entire area of civilians(aka witnesses) away.. whatever they want to write down is what "happened". now that people can easily listen in on police scanners things are getting caught by the public that never have before

that's just my take on it anyway

[krazy kris]

Just playing devil's advocate here more than anything, but I am curious...

Why, in this situation, would you hold it against anyone that allowed the cops to search their homes, and why would you resist? Is it just principle?

In most situations, I would strongly defend my home against any uninvited entrance. But, in this exact situation, I think I'd probably invite them in to sweep through my home looking for the suspect. I want them to catch the guy, and if this gives me an opportunity to help, I'd be okay with it.

I personally have nothing to hide and would consent to a Search if it was just 1 cop and I could be in each room that was being searched. It's the same as letting a stranger walk through your house and go through all your shit.

[Scott Mc]

That is a hard one to call. We live in a huge metroplex, if they Marshall lawed DFW I would have to say may ass would be bugging out, but if I didn't I would tentatively allow a search. All this just stinks worse than a ten day old shit sandwich.

[momo]

so if you weren't home, did they break in?

[talisman]

I don't disagree with you Jared, and might do the same depending on circumstances(although honestly, I doubt it). However, I'm interested in knowing if it was a choice or not for those homeowners.

[Scott Mc]

Oh snap, good question. Weren't the people supposed to be on lock down in their homes?

[mustang_revival]

Yea I agree- so what happens if someone did resist in that situation? Certainly
not everyone just steeped aside and allowed entrance.