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  • Originally posted by naynay View Post
    this does not reflect my personal opinions; merely posted as to open minds to a bigger picture.
    If the government is acting against the people, they aren't going to fake it. I can't even begin to understand the mindset people have that they would distrust the government enough to contrive this idea of actors staging this whole thing for pretext, yet they can't grasp that government willing to wrest liberties away from the people is not concerned about hurting those people in the process.
    Men have become the tools of their tools.
    -Henry David Thoreau

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    • Originally posted by BERNIE MOSFET View Post
      If the government is acting against the people, they aren't going to fake it. I can't even begin to understand the mindset people have that they would distrust the government enough to contrive this idea of actors staging this whole thing for pretext, yet they can't grasp that government willing to wrest liberties away from the people is not concerned about hurting those people in the process.


      Bingo.

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      • your post was unclear to me. i simply find the conspiracy theories to be interesting. i dont believe or disbelieve in them

        THE BAD HOMBRE

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        • So i can move this one too?
          Originally posted by Silverback
          Look all you want, she can't find anyone else who treats her as bad as I do, and I keep her self esteem so low, she wouldn't think twice about going anywhere else.

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          • Originally posted by naynay View Post
            your post was unclear to me. i simply find the conspiracy theories to be interesting. i dont believe or disbelieve in them

            http://one-vibration.com/m/group/dis...opic%3A1193308
            Whose post is unclear?
            Men have become the tools of their tools.
            -Henry David Thoreau

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            • yours,

              and henry, im keeping it on track, but i guess it will become more political, however the BP isnt all that active, soo....
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              • THE BAD HOMBRE

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                • what are you showing us?
                  "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
                  "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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                  • nothing, it is a .gif related to the topic.
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                    • Originally posted by naynay View Post
                      yours,

                      and henry, im keeping it on track, but i guess it will become more political, however the BP isnt all that active, soo....
                      Well, I wasn't speaking to or about you, specifically, when speaking about the perspective you presented (unless you believe it, but you've said you do not).

                      I'm not sure what about it wasn't clear. Not trusting the government is not new and conspiracy theories are not new, but there seems to be a disconnect from reality for the people who earnestly buy into these ideas. It's not that they shouldn't be entertained, but why stretch the appearance of an event to fit an odd narrative when the apparent narrative of the events is generally the most likely?

                      If the theorist makes the assumption that this is a government false-flag event, the apparent narrative is that real explosives were detonated causing real injury and death to real people. The odd narrative here requires a greatly orchestrated and rehearsed staging of a fraudulent event to the degree that, under video surveillance, it must not be discernible as a fraud. Why go there with it? Do the theorists buying into this believe that malevolence stops short of violence? Individuals who play at power don't take unnecessary risks, but they will wager the lives of the people they represent, or rule.
                      Men have become the tools of their tools.
                      -Henry David Thoreau

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                      • makes more sense! i dont think it is "fake" by any means, its all very real. just too much that doesnt add up in my head to not question. I was thinking about it the night that it happened, or more specifically the day that they arrested a suspect, then they didnt arrest anyone. It made me think, damn here i am 1500 miles away thinking I am right on top of the story, when really all i can see is what CNN and MSNBC are showing me. And to think the FCC controls everything I am watching, then there is now way I could ever know the whole truth.

                        As far as having thousands of people in on a secret, i dont think that would be necessary. you have 30 or 40 crisis actors, and everyone else (crowd, police, community) is non the wiser.

                        There is some weird shit going on in the youtube links i posted with the disappearing blood and what not. Someone's got some explaining to do there!
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                        • Originally posted by naynay View Post
                          makes more sense! i dont think it is "fake" by any means, its all very real. just too much that doesnt add up in my head to not question. I was thinking about it the night that it happened, or more specifically the day that they arrested a suspect, then they didnt arrest anyone. It made me think, damn here i am 1500 miles away thinking I am right on top of the story, when really all i can see is what CNN and MSNBC are showing me. And to think the FCC controls everything I am watching, then there is now way I could ever know the whole truth.

                          As far as having thousands of people in on a secret, i dont think that would be necessary. you have 30 or 40 crisis actors, and everyone else (crowd, police, community) is non the wiser.

                          There is some weird shit going on in the youtube links i posted with the disappearing blood and what not. Someone's got some explaining to do there!
                          One of my favorite movies is "Live from Baghdad". It's about the CNN news crew that had a live feed setup and broadcast information about the first night of attacks during Desert Storm. The other networks were scooped hard and all they could do is re-air CNN's broadcast. It was probably the event that defined 24 hour news and the demand to get information out first. It was the first time I can remember being glued to the TV, hanging on every detail they could give about the operation.

                          One of the things also hinted at in the film was how hard it was to keep spitting out information for hours on end. And so it's not so different now. They knowingly repeat the same information for lack of something new, which they are frantically trying to find. In their haste, they often report things incorrectly, and I think that gives fodder to conspiracy theorists. Even still, what they do report must fit the network formula because news agencies are businesses first, and journalists second.


                          There's still a whole lot of ifs to make any story involving actors believable.

                          Regarding the disappearing blood - networks have been busted for doctoring up stuff before. I'm not surprised a bit about it, and I'd imagine they did it to try to make the scene more palatable.
                          Men have become the tools of their tools.
                          -Henry David Thoreau

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                          • freedom!

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                            • Originally posted by dville_gt View Post


                              freedom!
                              Portly SOB @ 2:10. Too much tacti-cool?

                              Where'd the home owners get shuffled off to and when we they allowed to go back?

                              I'm somewhat disgusted by seeing that.
                              "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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                              • Fuck. That.

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