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[racrguy]

There are a lot of family members that are forced to deal with family for one reason or another. Just because you can separate yourself from your situation does not mean everyone else can.

What Brent said, as he worded it in a better fashion than I would've.

But we are. Corrections, medical, crime victims, etc. are all part of the game. You cannot dispute that.

And yet, we're still on the hook for the crime victims that aren't tied to drugs. If you would quit arresting people for "crimes" they commit against themselves and arrest them for crimes they commit against others, there would be no correctional cost in regards to drugs.

Compelled isn't the right word. That's you being dramatic. Say you get a drug conviction. With that comes a DL suspension. You get caught driving on a suspended DL. That's a Class B and here we go with another trip through the "justice system". Officers that make the arrest, tow company that pulls the vehicle, booking and jailing, bonding, grand jury, DA, etc..... Pull your head out of the sand and take a look at the big picture. That's just one example.

Do you know how many crimes are committed to pay for attorneys? Say Doper "A" gets arrested. Now since he's a doper and doesn't have a job, he has to steal to pay his bondsman and attorney. Guess what he does? JFC, Shawn/Sean are you really that naive?

Thanks for making my point for me.

So hiring, losing work product, going through the hassle of firing and looking for a replacement is just something fun for companies to do?

Because life should be fun/fair? I've seen just as many shitty employees that aren't on drugs as there are ones that were on drugs. Shitty employees will be shitty regardless of their drug use issues.

Have any stats/facts that support your thoughts on this? We all know how skewed stats can be, so find some that are fairly reliable.

Sure. Look up the Netherlands. They haven't legalized drugs, but they've taken a stance of non-enforcement.

I'm glad you like something....

Has anyone told you that you lack a sense of sarcasm?

All in all, you haven't justified your position that drugs need to be banned, when everything you labeled out was/is already against the law.

[Sean88gt]

It was legal in CO and I rarely encountered it. The tax revenue help offset budget short falls. I see it being legal nationally in less than a decade.

[03trubluGT]

Care to clarify this at all, because the way you wrote it is absolutely, positively, 100% wrong. Yes, everyone else can. Anyone can. It's pretty damn simple, actually. Everyone has a choice. They should stop making excuses, sack up, and make the choice. Not separating themselves from the situation is only further enabling addicts and addictive behavior.

What about a doper in his 40's victimizing his parents who are in their 80's?

There's a point in where people just can't stand up to predators.

[03trubluGT]

. If you would quit arresting people for "crimes" they commit against themselves and arrest them for crimes they commit against others, there would be no correctional cost in regards to drugs.

Let's get this straight. I have almost NEVER arrested anyone for personal use weed. I can't elaborate because of numerous reasons, but if the person was holding his/her own personal use stuff, it wasn't worth the paperwork and I used discretion to not enforce those laws as vigorously as other officers.

Now if there were other reasons or compounding issues, then that was another story (like doing drugs around kids, etc...)

[03trubluGT]

All in all, you haven't justified your position that drugs need to be banned, when everything you labeled out was/is already against the law.

I've noticed this trend from you recently.

[racrguy]

Let's get this straight. I have almost NEVER arrested anyone for personal use weed. I can't elaborate because of numerous reasons, but if the person was holding his/her own personal use stuff, it wasn't worth the paperwork and I used discretion to not enforce those laws as vigorously as other officers.

Now if there were other reasons or compounding issues, then that was another story (like doing drugs around kids, etc...)

Almost never? It should be never. Drug laws are horseshit.

I've noticed this trend from you recently.

You sure have, and it still hasn't been justified. I'm waiting on a good justification that a dumbass such as myself can't poke holes through.

[03trubluGT]

Almost never? It should be never. Drug laws are horseshit.


You sure have, and it still hasn't been justified. I'm waiting on a good justification that a dumbass such as myself can't poke holes through.

Well, I can't hardly say "never" when it has been 22 years........

I can say that I cannot recall ever having done so.

So, Shawn/Sean, are you a fan of the dope? Do you do it?

Why are you so against the drug laws?

[Jester]

Well, I can't hardly say "never" when it has been 22 years........

I can say that I cannot recall ever having done so.

So, Shawn/Sean, are you a fan of the dope? Do you do it?

Why are you so against the drug laws?

does it really matter if he does it or not? It is fucking stupid to make it illegal. Just a way to pad the governments pockets and keep people that get off on power(cops) with job security.

[lowthreeohz]

Where's that line of questioning headed? Im a fan and smoke on occasion...proceed with making your point.

[bcoop]

What about a doper in his 40's victimizing his parents who are in their 80's?

There's a point in where people just can't stand up to predators.

Kick him the fuck out, and change the locks. Sorry, but that's a poor example.

[racrguy]

Well, I can't hardly say "never" when it has been 22 years........

One would hope they could recall possibly messing up someones life over inconsequential bullshit.

I can say that I cannot recall ever having done so.

This would have been the more appropriate statement. More to that point, would you arrest someone because they were drinking around their children, what about smoking cigarettes?

So, Shawn/Sean, are you a fan of the dope? Do you do it?

I don't see how it's relevant, but I'll play your little game. Not with ANY sense of regularity, no. I can count on one hand the number of times I smoked in the past 15 years.

Why are you so against the drug laws?

It's not so much that I'm anti-drug law, as it is that I'm pro-liberty.

Why are you so pro-drug laws? Have you EVER smoked pot?

[Tannerm]

I think tanner and 03 should blaze at least once in their life. It would be hysterical!

Eff u hose jockey! I would be the guy who would call the cops on himself due to not fully grasping the trip! Lol.

[Josh.0]

Why are you so pro-drug laws? Have you EVER smoked pot?

you know what his answer is going to be...

[03trubluGT]

Kick him the fuck out, and change the locks. Sorry, but that's a poor example.

No, it's really not. When someone cannot defend themselves, it is pure victimization.

[03trubluGT]

One would hope they could recall possibly messing up someones life over inconsequential bullshit.

That's fucking weak. Do you remember the mom with the kids in the soccer van that you cut off and possibly made them wreck out causing injury that happened 22 years ago??? Also, perception is the key here. What is "inconsequential" to you may be monumental to someone else.

This would have been the more appropriate statement. More to that point, would you arrest someone because they were drinking around their children, what about smoking cigarettes?

Is drinking or smoking illegal?

I don't see how it's relevant, but I'll play your little game. Not with ANY sense of regularity, no. I can count on one hand the number of times I smoked in the past 15 years.

Not surprised.

It's not so much that I'm anti-drug law, as it is that I'm pro-liberty.

Why are you so pro-drug laws? Have you EVER smoked pot?

Pro Liberty huh? So much as to where it infringes on other's freedoms???

And I've said it before, I've NEVER smoked a cigarette, much less weed.